Comments Thread For: DiBella: Sergio Martinez Will Not Take Fights at 168

[puga]

pacquiao is a contradiction, there was a time when said 150 is the weight he'd fight martinez, and now he says 147. pacquiao still always says "talk to my promoter" and never gives his actual opinion? is he scared or something? why won't he ever talk for himself? and not just for martinez, but usually about mayweather as well. i've said multiple times martinez can be the same size as margarito. martinez can't fight bigger guys at 168 cause he's already a relatively small middleweight. he's also 37, him moving up to fight fresher, bigger opponents is something pacquiao's never done. pacquiao's fought piece of shit quality fighters in margarito and clottey. pirog has no significance whatsoever right now. he has a belt, whoop dee do. martinez beat a tougher guy in pavlik to get that belt. pirog fought an inexperienced danny jacobs for it and has defended it against no names since. look at proksa and macklin. they fought better opposition in their last fights and now they're above pirog in rankings, and pirog is a titleholder! dude looks talented but he hasn't shown what he can do against world class fighters so far. until then, there's no need for martinez and dibella to chase him down for a fight, and i like pirog.

yet the small guys he calls ar not too small for him....do you really not see sergio's hypocrisy, i mean really?...lol at fresher...barker?...id take a win over a 38 year old jmm than a 20 year old bum....sergio is not all that so dont act as if he's on a diffrent level when it comes to accomplishemnts... 2 good wins does not warrant you to act like a damn atg, and think even champions in your own division aint worth your time...that 15 minute fame of his has already gotten to his head, it seems...

[chiguy91]

yet the small guys he calls ar not too small for him....do you really not see sergio's hypocrisy, i mean really?...lol at fresher...barker?...id take a win over a 38 year old jmm than a 20 year old bum....sergio is not all that so dont act as if he's on a diffrent level when it comes to accomplishemnts... 2 good wins does not warrant you to act like a damn atg, and think even champions in your own division aint worth your time...that 15 minute fame of his has already gotten to his head, it seems...

dummy, i said fresher as in referring to the SMWs like bute or ward. and pacquiao and mayweather have foughts guys martinez' size (margarito and ortiz). they both weighed 165 like martinez did on fight night. he's not acting all that, his promoter is just looking out for the biggest fight, like any other promoter. pacquiao and mayweather both fought for 154 titles, cotto is a 154 lb champ, and chavez jr is a MW with a belt around his waist. those are all big money fights any promoter would want if they had martinez but yet none give him a chance. and you can dream about pirog or hate martinez all you want, the truth is pirog hasn't done anything in his division to claim himself the best at 160. like i said before, he has a belt, good for him, but he hasn't had big fights like proksa or macklin have, which they've shown what quality of fighters they are.

[puga]

dummy, i said fresher as in referring to the SMWs like bute or ward. and pacquiao and mayweather have foughts guys martinez' size (margarito and ortiz). they both weighed 165 like martinez did on fight night. he's not acting all that, his promoter is just looking out for the biggest fight, like any other promoter. pacquiao and mayweather both fought for 154 titles, cotto is a 154 lb champ, and chavez jr is a MW with a belt around his waist. those are all big money fights any promoter would want if they had martinez but yet none give him a chance. and you can dream about pirog or hate martinez all you want, the truth is pirog hasn't done anything in his division to claim himself the best at 160. like i said before, he has a belt, good for him, but he hasn't had big fights like proksa or macklin have, which they've shown what quality of fighters they are.

youre criticising pac for something sertgio has not done himself?...lol...dont even know why im getting with comparing sergio to an atg like pacquaio , just to play along i guess..

if sergio is all about money fights, fight priog in his home for 6 million, they offered him that....thats the biggest payday he'lll ever see his whole carreer...why did'nt he take it?...

[chiguy91]

youre criticising pac for something sertgio has not done himself?...lol...dont even know why im getting with comparing sergio to an atg like pacquaio , just to play along i guess..

if sergio is all about money fights, fight priog in his home for 6 million, they offered him that....thats the biggest payday he'lll ever see his whole carreer...why did'nt he take it?...

what am i criticizing pac of that martinez didn't do? fight bigger guys? oh yeah because a shot margs and a scared(probably bought off) clottey were such tough matchups.
1. it wouldn't have been his last fight, he would've got jipped of a decision if he couldn't knock out pirog and had no american network show the fight, further pushing his name out in the public which wouldn't do anything for him in the long run.
2. he's no p4p fighter or even top MW fighter to point where it'd boost him past pac or may in the p4p rankings or solidify his career.

yeah, tell your boy pac to man up and fight mayweather, someone who will actually cement his legacy and career (and who is the same size as him).

[hugh grant]

conclusion:

Martinez would rather fight smaller guys (Pac and Floyd) rather than fighting bigger men(Ward and Bute).

Pac & Floyd: Low risk, High Reward
Ward & Bute: High risk, Low Reward

Pac has moved up untold amount of weights now and the highest weight he can conceivably fight at is 150. So how come Sergio belittles Pac for not stepping up even more weight? Sergio hasnt done close to what Pac has, yet can criticize Pac somehow?
If Sergio is supposed to be good he would have not too much problem stepping up to 168! Well it is a hard task but thats what challenging yourself is all about. If Pac dont fight Sergio at 154 you cant criticizse Pac because there has to be a limit to what one should expect of a 5ft6 guy with a small frame.

Andre Ward or Carl Froch wouldnt have the size advantages over Sergio, as Sergio would have over Pac. Sergio is 5ft10 isnt he?

[puga]

what am i criticizing pac of that martinez didn't do? fight bigger guys? oh yeah because a shot margs and a scared(probably bought off) clottey were such tough matchups.
1. it wouldn't have been his last fight, he would've got jipped of a decision if he couldn't knock out pirog and had no american network show the fight, further pushing his name out in the public which wouldn't do anything for him in the long run.
2. he's no p4p fighter or even top MW fighter to point where it'd boost him past pac or may in the p4p rankings or solidify his career.

fight fresher guys like bute or ward....when has segio done that?..this came from you not me.youre cirticising pac for not having done that..so when has sergio done that?...pwil already lost to quintana... a shot margs was still better than ****en cintron and sergio did not beat him on paper...clottey win is way better than any win by sergio with the expetion of his only 2 good wins...

1. you suggesting he'd get robbed is speculation...he wont just agree with everything...he can suggest neutral judges and refs if he wants....but thats 6 mil for his ass, something he will never get againsts anyone else..

2, even sergio himself is overratting his accomp it seems with everything that comes out his mouth nowadays...

[chiguy91]

fight fresher guys like bute or ward....when has segio done that?..this came from you not me.youre cirticising pac for not having done that..so when has sergio done that?...pwil already lost to quintana... a shot margs was still better than ****en cintron and sergio did not beat him on paper...clottey win is way better than any win by sergio with the expetion of his only 2 good wins...

1. you suggesting he'd get robbed is speculation...he wont just agree with everything...he can suggest neutral judges and refs if he wants....but thats 6 mil for his ass, something he will never get againsts anyone else..

2, even sergio himself is overratting his accomp it seems with everything that comes out his mouth nowadays...

i never said martinez did that. i'm explaining to you that that's what people want from sergio: to prove he's p4p by beating guys like ward or bute. but ward and bute are the best in their division, pacquiao hasn't beaten the best of any division. he doesn't even want to do that with mayweather, who is the best in the world let alone division. a shot margs is not better than the cintron martinez faced. at that time he only lost to margarito twice who wasn't caught cheating yet in the mosley fight. and he did beat cintron, just got robbed of a decision. you say marquez beat a crappy casamayor who lost to santa cruz, yeah he didn't win but he won on paper.
no i think him getting robbed is a fair guess to say, look at williams/lara, macklin/sturm, and helenius/chisora. the sole reason martinez is after pac or may aside from money is because they're recognized as the best in the world and are above him in the p4p rankings. he's always said he wants to be p4p no. 1 in the world, that's why some had referred to him as the people's champ. he gets paid fine right now, going to russia and possibly losing, yeah no thanks. no promoter or fighter would ever take that offer if they had bigger opportunities in front of them. you can see lara is the only one calling both martinez and pirog out, why? because he has nothing to lose. he knows gbp won't give him a canelo ($$) fight and he's not in any position to be looked at from mayweather or pacquiao.

[puga]

i never said martinez did that. i'm explaining to you that that's what people want from sergio: to prove he's p4p by beating guys like ward or bute. but ward and bute are the best in their division, pacquiao hasn't beaten the best of any division. he doesn't even want to do that with mayweather, who is the best in the world let alone division. a shot margs is not better than the cintron martinez faced. at that time he only lost to margarito twice who wasn't caught cheating yet in the mosley fight. and he did beat cintron, just got robbed of a decision. you say marquez beat a crappy casamayor who lost to santa cruz, yeah he didn't win but he won on paper.
no i think him getting robbed is a fair guess to say, look at williams/lara, macklin/sturm, and helenius/chisora. the sole reason martinez is after pac or may aside from money is because they're recognized as the best in the world and are above him in the p4p rankings. he's always said he wants to be p4p no. 1 in the world, that's why some had referred to him as the people's champ. he gets paid fine right now, going to russia and possibly losing, yeah no thanks. no promoter or fighter would ever take that offer if they had bigger opportunities in front of them. you can see lara is the only one calling both martinez and pirog out, why? because he has nothing to lose. he knows gbp won't give him a canelo ($$) fight and he's not in any position to be looked at from mayweather or pacquiao.

i never said you said it...but why would you cirticisn pac for for not having done it when sergio has 'nt done it himself?...it does not make sense...it's just like a thief criticising someone for stealing, nah mean..

lol for sain pac has not beaten the best in any division...pac is the ONLY 4 div lineal champ ....the ONLY...again, learn your ****....

cintron better than margs?...another bs...did you know margs beat his ass twice?..beat him way better than sergio did too

dont really wanna touch the floyd subject since thats another topic..

if he wants to be the p4p # 1 he needs to fight the bests in his onw size...

[chiguy91]

i never said you said it...but why would you cirticisn pac for for not having done it when sergio has 'nt done it himself?...it does not make sense...it's just like a thief criticising someone for stealing, nah mean..

lol for sain pac has not beaten the best in any division...pac is the ONLY 4 div lineal champ ....the ONLY...again, learn your ****....

cintron better than margs?...another bs...did you know margs beat his ass twice?..beat him way better than sergio did too

dont really wanna touch the floyd subject since thats another topic..

if he wants to be the p4p # 1 he needs to fight the bests in his onw size...

i criticized pac for doing it against shit opposition when people are asking the same for martinez, but only against the best at 168. who cares if martinez didn't do it, saying you won an 8th world title against a garbage opponent ain't nothing to brag about.
yeah, he did receive 4 lineal titles, but two were against marquez where many say he didn't win. again, he won on paper so good for him.
you must have not read my post because i said cintron lost twice to margarito, both times before he got caught cheating. that version of cintron that martinez faced was way better than the version pacquiao faced of margarito, that's what i meant to say if you didn't understand.
i won't touch on that floyd thing either, but you honestly think him beating sturm, pirog, and geale would put him above mayweather and pacquiao in the p4p rankings? i highly doubt that even though i'd have him as no. 1

[BillyBoxing]

i criticized pac for doing it against shit opposition when people are asking the same for martinez, but only against the best at 168. who cares if martinez didn't do it, saying you won an 8th world title against a garbage opponent ain't nothing to brag about.
yeah, he did receive 4 lineal titles, but two were against marquez where many say he didn't win. again, he won on paper so good for him. you must have not read my post because i said cintron lost twice to margarito, both times before he got caught cheating. that version of cintron that martinez faced was way better than the version pacquiao faced of margarito, that's what i meant to say if you didn't understand.
i won't touch on that floyd thing either, but you honestly think him beating sturm, pirog, and geale would put him above mayweather and pacquiao in the p4p rankings? i highly doubt that even though i'd have him as no. 1

WUT???So Pacquiao won a lineal title with a draw?Thanks buddy