Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: Pacquiao is a Fake Pound for Pound King

[bojangles1987]

But when he did that he drew and won an SD. He did win this last fight by the widest margin so maybe this was the right tactic to use.

Yet everyone thought he did his worst. I didn't, but most people did.

With all the advantages he had, he needed to come out and catch Marquez before JMM settled into a groove, and he didn't even try. In the first fight he had Marquez damn near stopped in one round, in the second fight he had him on the ground in the third. He needed to come out hungry, like the madman he used to be. Unfortunately, that Pac is probably gone forever.

[revs1227]

oh yeah sergio ur the real p4p fighting barker n macklin LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[LeadUppercut]

No, it is Seergio who is the fake P4p guy who wont step up to 168 yet expects Pac to step up even more than he already has.

Andre ward and Carl Froch wouldnt have the physical advantages over Sergio as Sergio would have over Pac. Sergio is a hefty 5ft10, whereas Pac is 5ft6.
So i cant believe the utter cheek of Sergio at times.

I cant believe the utter ******ity of *******s.

Kid, Martinez is a large JMW who is already punching above his weight at 160.

That is proven by the fact that Martinez can still make 150.

Here is why you are an idiot.....

Martinez just stated that he can make 150, and you immediately insisted that he should be fighting at 168.

You fkn ****head, what SMW can still make 150 ?

Moron.

[LeadUppercut]

I'm starting to lose my respect for Martinez. I mean just pay ur dues, stop the hating hell if people want to critique Manny why don't Martinez move up and fight let's say Froch who is the 3rd best at 168. Manny moved up and fought Cotto arguably the 2nd or 3rd best Welter at the time. This dude just a ***ing hater and it shows. Would not surprise me if he's on roids too all these dudes are GTFO!!!!

Another silly ****.......

*** off fanboy, go and play with your Manny-doll.

[AnimalisticMeth]

Sergio Martinez is the biggest whore in boxing.

[LeadUppercut]

Anyone who suggests that Martinez should be fighting at 168, when Sergio just stated that he can still make 150..... is an idiot with an agenda, plain and simple. Sooooo many excuses to protect a supposed P4P fighter.

Pacquiao stated..... " I will fight anyone at 150 "

Pacquiao is an ex JMW champ.

Pacquiao fought for Sergio's title.

But Pacquiao will not fight Sergio.

Looks to me like..... Pacquiao is nothing but a PU55Y !!

[Pony Boy]

Oooooh Weeeeeee Pac fans still heated over the Marquez lost.

[AFighter4U]

Again, in your post you stated that Pac had the advantage over Cotto because Hoya was allowed to vs him. I'm telling you two wrongs do not make a right. Using that in your agenda for an argument to defend Pac is wrong.

sheesh.

because hoya was allowed to vs him?

i NEVER stated that because dela hoya used his negotiating advantage over manny that manny should do the same to cotto.

i ONLY STATED EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.

dela hoya used his leverage to get an advantageous fight over manny,
manny used his leverage to get a catchweight vs cotto.

end of story.

like i said before. fighters do what they can to get an advantage over their opponents. almost everyone does it. you may not like it, but they do it.

this all boils down to your being mad at the "double standards" folks have in judging fighters WHICH YOU WRONGLY ATTRIBUTED TO ME.

you thought that i praised manny for using his leverage to negotiate for a catchweight against cotto when in fact i did no such thing. i merely stated that manny did so.

but its ok man. you're apparently one of those folks who cannot admit to being wrong.

[WESS]

sheesh.

because hoya was allowed to vs him?

i NEVER stated that because dela hoya used his negotiating advantage over manny that manny should do the same to cotto.

i ONLY STATED EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.

dela hoya used his leverage to get an advantageous fight over manny,
manny used his leverage to get a catchweight vs cotto.

end of story.

like i said before. fighters do what they can to get an advantage over their opponents. almost everyone does it. you may not like it, but they do it.

this all boils down to your being mad at the "double standards" folks have in judging fighters WHICH YOU WRONGLY ATTRIBUTED TO ME.

you thought that i praised manny for using his leverage to negotiate for a catchweight against cotto when in fact i did no such thing. i merely stated that manny did so.

but its ok man. you're apparently one of those folks who cannot admit to being wrong.

You apparently forgot that you approve of fighters using advantages over the other...

and you don't know your history.

dela hoya was the cash cow at the time he fought manny and thus dictated the terms of the fight. because dela hoya held all the cards, manny had to risk jumping up two whole weight classes.

to give you an idea of manny's situation since you don't know your history, before fighting dela hoya, manny FOUGHT AT 135, LIGHTWEIGHT, whereas before fighting manny, dela hoya FOUGHT AT 154, SUPER WELTERWEIGHT.

dela hoya held all the cards, AND HE USED IT TO HIS ADVANTAGE. pity he didn't put to full use his advantages.

by the time manny fought cotto, he had more leverage in negotiating the terms for their fight.

Which goes back to my original point. It is wrong and just because Hoya took advantage (and according to your standards he should have taken more advantages), does not mean Pac had the right to take advantage over Cotto who was the "paper" champ. Do you pity that the paper champ Cotto shouldn't have given into the Manny's negotiation leverage?

Boxing is a crude business, but that doesn't mean you have to agree with what goes on. Its why MMA is making boxing a laughing joke. You don't see that bullshyt in that noob of a sport now do you?

Many things are wrong with boxing and negotiation leverage is just one of them. You obviously condone it especially if it suits your agenda. Most pac fans agree with leverages as all of the titles Pac has won since moving up from JWW involve such.

[AFighter4U]

Yet everyone thought he did his worst. I didn't, but most people did.

With all the advantages he had, he needed to come out and catch Marquez before JMM settled into a groove, and he didn't even try. In the first fight he had Marquez damn near stopped in one round, in the second fight he had him on the ground in the third. He needed to come out hungry, like the madman he used to be. Unfortunately, that Pac is probably gone forever.

dude. manny had just one bad day in several years of fighting and thus he's probably gone forever? that's reaching man.

things simply didn't go as planned for team Pac that time and they thus move on to the next challenge.