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  • BoxingGenius27
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    #101
    Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
    Who tha **** was available at 168 for Bute to fight, please enlight me!

    Ward fought 4 out of 5 fights in oakland, he didnt have to leave his city.

    Ward is the goods, the deserving winner of the Super and the rightfully so #1SMW, but he had his accomodations.
    Let's see, who was available....

    Bute was in negotiations with Cloud for a catchweight. I thought this was a solid fight. Needless to say, the fight fell through.

    Secondly, the same applies for Pavlik. They were in negotiations, but the fight didn't happen because both sides couldn't agree on the financial shares.

    I think these would've been solid fights as oppose to fighting Johnson, McGee, and Mendy.

    Hell, they could've tried to get someone from 160 to come up or someone from 175 to come down. But instead, they go after Johnson? Come on man.

    Point is, Team Bute didn't exhaust all their resources before agreeing to fight Johnson.
    Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 12-18-2011, 09:06 PM.

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    • turbotime
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      #102
      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
      Let's see, who was available....

      Bute was in negotiations with Cloud for a catchweight. I thought this was a solid fight. Needless to say, the fight fell through.

      Secondly, the same applies for Pavlik. They were in negotiations, but the fight didn't happen because both sides couldn't agree on the financial shares.

      I think these would've been solid fights as oppose to fighting Johnson, McGee, and Mendy.
      More like Pavlik didn't want to take the chance at a free title shot in a main event, and would have rather fought a prospect on an undercard for half of what he would have made for Bute.

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      • Boxingtech718v2
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        #103
        Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
        Let's see, who was available....

        Bute was in negotiations with Cloud for a catchweight. I thought this was a solid fight. Needless to say, the fight fell through.

        Secondly, the same applies for Pavlik. They were in negotiations, but the fight didn't happen because both sides couldn't agree on the financial shares.

        I think these would've been solid fights as oppose to fighting Johnson, McGee, and Mendy.
        His team wasn't going to let him face Cloud that's a high risk low reward fight.
        Cloud is tough as nails a true throwback fighter that punishes his opposition before knocking them out. Fighting Cloud could ruin Bute before he gets a chance to cash in.

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        • BoxingGenius27
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          #104
          Originally posted by Boxingtech718v2
          His team wasn't going to let him face Cloud that's a high risk low reward fight.
          Cloud is tough as nails a true throwback fighter that punishes his opposition before knocking them out. Fighting Cloud could ruin Bute before he gets a chance to cash in.
          But if Bute wants my respect and advocate him getting a fight with Ward, these are the types of fights that I was looking for.

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          • BoxingGenius27
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            #105
            Originally posted by turbotime
            More like Pavlik didn't want to take the chance at a free title shot in a main event, and would have rather fought a prospect on an undercard for half of what he would have made for Bute.
            Because after the Bute fight fell through, Pavlik needed the money and didn't have a choice. Top Rank wasn't budging. Boxingscene has articles on what happen after the Bute fight didn't happen.

            Don't make it sound like he ducked Bute for a lesser fighter with less money.

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            • ChampBox@PR
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              #106
              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
              Let's see, who was available....

              Bute was in negotiations with Cloud for a catchweight. I thought this was a solid fight. Needless to say, the fight fell through.

              Secondly, the same applies for Pavlik. They were in negotiations, but the fight didn't happen because both sides couldn't agree on the financial shares.

              I think these would've been solid fights as oppose to fighting Johnson, McGee, and Mendy.

              Hell, they could've tried to get someone from 160 to come up or someone from 175 to come down. But instead, they go after Johnson? Come on man.

              Point is, Team Bute didn't exhaust all their resources before agreeing to fight Johnson.
              Pavlik refused to fight Bute, or are you forgetting that? Kessler was offer 3.5mills and said no thank you and went to fight Stieglitz. How is that Butes fault?

              You can try and spin it like you want, the truth is there wasnt anyone worth at the time, and the 2 only decent names, flat out said no.

              Cloud can barely make 175, let alone a catchweight lower than that.

              I say Bute should fight Froch and Ward should rematch Kessler the winner meeting each others!! and losers can fight each other too!

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              • turbotime
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                #107
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                Because after the Bute fight fell through, Pavlik needed the money and didn't have a choice. Top Rank wasn't budging. Boxingscene has articles on what happen after the Bute fight didn't happen.

                Don't make it sound like he ducked Bute for a lesser fighter with less money.
                He did duck Bute, though.

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                • ChampBox@PR
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                  But if Bute wants my respect and advocate him getting a fight with Ward, these are the types of fights that I was looking for.
                  Like if Bute gives a flying **** about you and him earning your respect!

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                  • tank17211
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                    WBA/WBC super middleweight champion Andre Ward (25-0, 13KOs) is not impressed with the record of Lucian Bute, the undefeated IBF champion. Ward, who dominated Carl Froch (28-2, 20KOs) on Saturday night to win the Super Six tournament, is not rushing to make a deal with Bute, who many believed who automatically face the Super Six winner. He believes Bute took an easy road to the Super Six champion. But if the right deal comes along, Ward is ready to make the fight.

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                    Word definitely has a point. Bute shouldn't automatically get the gold at the end of the rainbow while the rest of these guys are all doing the hard work. That was a beyotch move by Bute not being in the tournament.

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                    • ChampBox@PR
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      Because after the Bute fight fell through, Pavlik needed the money and didn't have a choice. Top Rank wasn't budging. Boxingscene has articles on what happen after the Bute fight didn't happen.

                      Don't make it sound like he ducked Bute for a lesser fighter with less money.
                      He ducked Bute and he also, cancelled the fight he had before the Bute fight was suppose to happend.

                      WTF r you on son? Pavlik when full ****** and cancelled a show with a week to go in his hometown and flat out turn Bute down, to comne months later crying and begging Bob to take him back!!

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