Better career as of now? Ward or Calzaghe?

[SHB]

Who has the better fundamentals? That's what I mean by boxing skills, not who is the better fighter. Hopkins has more boxing skills than Jones but Jones was the better fighter in his prime because of his reflexes and athleticism.

Fair enough. Ward had the better amateur career but Calzaghe's wasn't bad ... and could have been better if it wasn't for a fallingout with the ABA. Calzaghe was technically very sound, at least before his hands broke. It depends how you look at it. Either way, not sure it matters all that much. I think Jones' skills are underrated also, but I suspect I'm in a minority there.

[thepower]

Joe Calzaghe of course, and I say that as no big fan of his.

[SHB]

He hardly did TOO MUCH too late, fighting an old ass Hopkins in a fight that along with boring me to death had the industry split on who actually won, Joe just wasnt landing anything clean. That GIF of him missing every shot in a pathetic windmill attack sticks with me. And Jones was a rotting corpse who still went the distance and even floored Joe.

Carl didnt turn pro until 25 so he couldnt really make his move too early, he's actually at his best Now imo but i do expect him to start slipping soon

With a forearm smash. Let's not forget that eh. But yes, a horrible spectacle to end their careers ... that fight could have been awesome 5 or 10 years earlier. The Hopkins fight was equally horrible for different reasons, but you can't win a fight by ducking and throwing 7 punches. Hopkins lost, and Hopkins has only himself to blame for that. And even then, it showed why Calzaghe was so good and why he'd have beaten Ward ... Plan A went to **** but he came back with a different plan and pretty much won every round later in the fight. That's the sign of a great fighter, whether you like him or not.

Froch was a damn shame. Spent years calling out Calzaghe when he was fighting club level fighters. He was getting slower just as he started fighting at world level. Damn shame really. Early Froch was damn quick and really lived up to the Cobra moniker. Now? Not so much, even if he's a lot smarter these days. Didn't make the most of his ability either.

Anyway, this thread depresses me. Put me in the camp that's a big fan of Calzaghe and Ward. He's the first SMW that genuinely excites me for years.

[Miburo]

Ward is certainly on the better career path.

[jamsta]

Calzaghe would beat ward on any given sunday, ma kneega. Joe please come back. Fight ward and then retire. Hbo, please offer joe 15 million for a return.

[Abstraction]

Ward has beat better opposition so far than Joe did in his entire "career"

[Tiozzo]

joke thread

[revs1227]

i think ward look great lastnight but i honestly think calzaghe would easily defeat him to me calzaghe is up therw with the mayweather and hopkinss who are just too hard to beat and wards amature style wouldnt pull it out on calzaghe
we know ward cant hurt him and calazaghes workrate over wards defence would win him the ud
were talking 100 puncheas thrown a round here theres just no way ward wins

[Light_Speed]

i think ward look great lastnight but i honestly think calzaghe would easily defeat him to me calzaghe is up therw with the mayweather and hopkinss who are just too hard to beat and wards amature style wouldnt pull it out on calzaghe
we know ward cant hurt him and calazaghes workrate over wards defence would win him the ud
were talking 100 puncheas thrown a round here theres just no way ward wins

Calzaghe doesn't throw that many punches when he fights a good defensive fighter. Hopkins was able to cut down his work rate in half.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Ward and its not even close. Froch has also surpassed Calslappy