Andre Ward vs Sergio Martinez

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  • ~AK49~
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    #11
    Originally posted by etlux
    huh? A guy that's p4p #3 in most people's lists is not skilled or smart enough for a guy who's p4p #7 or 8 or higher?
    Imo, p4p is meaningless if you cant move up a division and beat people.

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    • Light_Speed
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      #12
      Originally posted by akScoundrel
      Fight needs to happen, tho something tells me sergio would rather call out people that are 20 lbs lighter than him
      Why are you acting like it's not about the money? If Pac and Floyd were super middleweights Martinez would still chase them.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Light_Speed
        Why are you acting like it's not about the money? If Pac and Floyd were super middleweights Martinez would still chase them.
        It most definitely is about money, both cash green and money through promotions, exposure, etc.

        But the fact remains, he's calling out a dude that is almost 20 lbs lighter than him. Yet, its unreasonable to ask a high ranking P4P fighter to move up any weight.

        Kinda sucks when the shoe is on the other foot i suppose

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        • VatoMulatto
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          #14
          Originally posted by akScoundrel
          Styles making fights could very much play into this. Sergio has enough power, is skilled, smart and slick himself. And hes a fighter.
          Do you really think Martinez would move up to 168 to face Ward? He has never talked about or shown any interest to take on anyone in the Super middleweight division.

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          • Russian Crushin
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            #15
            Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
            I'd favor Ward even if they were the same size, but Martinez is probably too small to be moving up an extra 8 pounds. He fought as a jr middleweight in his last fight. Martinez said he'd consider 164, but I doubt Ward is interested in that because he's already talking about fighting at light heavyweight.
            Ummm what are you talking about?

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            • etlux
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              #16
              it's cus martinez knows his career is almost done so he needs to cash out for his retirement fund. can't be wasting time on a super dangerous low money fight against ward

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              • chiguy91
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                #17
                Originally posted by akScoundrel
                It most definitely is about money, both cash green and money through promotions, exposure, etc.

                But the fact remains, he's calling out a dude that is almost 20 lbs lighter than him. Yet, its unreasonable to ask a high ranking P4P fighter to move up any weight.

                Kinda sucks when the shoe is on the other foot i suppose
                martinez is willing to go down to 150 for pac, just like margarito. last fight against barker he was 165 on fight night, just like margarito. but yeah, i guess martinez needs to rack up a loss or be a lightweight for team pac to look at him.

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                • DoktorSleepless
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by akScoundrel
                  It most definitely is about money, both cash green and money through promotions, exposure, etc.

                  But the fact remains, he's calling out a dude that is almost 20 lbs lighter than him. Yet, its unreasonable to ask a high ranking P4P fighter to move up any weight.

                  Kinda sucks when the shoe is on the other foot i suppose
                  Martinez is willing to move down 10 pounds at 150. It's not like he's asking Pacquiao to fight at 160.

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                  • Evil Abed
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                    #19
                    Chad Dawson is the biggest threat to Andre Ward.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ThePhantom5
                      Chad Dawson is the biggest threat to Andre Ward.
                      agreed............................................ .

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