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Originally posted by edgarg View PostThat particular poster, is obviously myself, and I have a good reputation on this site,
Originally posted by edgarg View PostWe just have two different views of the same thing. A flawed case is rather easy to spot almost from the beginning...
I'm talking about your remark about how terrible Amanda's life with Gatti must have been, as if she provided him all the stability, moral support and basic respect you'd expect of a spouse (when all evidence suggests she did not).
My left nut has forgotten more about boxing than your withered old brain has ever stored. Save the Zionist propaganda and lies, BTW, because I stop reading as soon as you go there, so you're wasting your time. Bigot.
Originally posted by paulf View PostSo it's okay to make disparaging comments and accuse someone you've never met and know nothing about of being a thieving, money grubbing, cold blooded murdered without any evidence, like 90% of the posters in these Gatti threads?
Plenty is known about Gatti's widow, BTW. And absolutely none of it is good, so get over your crush and stop pretending she's some poor, victimized naif.
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I don't know about the 48 Hours show, but we have a similar show in Canada called "The Fifth Estate" and they had the private investigators hired by the Gatti's on there reconstructing the crime scene, interviewed the family members, and friends of his wife. The crime scene investigation looked as though suicide was impossible based on the evidence at the crime scene. The wife was actually quoted by several people as having talked about KILLING Gatti if he messed with her. Gatti did suffer from depression and suicidal thoughts as admitted by his brother, but he also described how much Arturo changed since his son was born and how those thoughts were no longer present as he was an active and loving father to his son.
I don't know where to find the "fifth Estate" footage, but it paints a completely opposite picture as the 48 hours special seems to.
Oh and for those questioning if his wife was ever a stripper...she sure as heck was, the P.I. even went to the strip club where she worked and it was confirmed by those that worked there.
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Originally posted by paulf View PostThank god. His family were greedy ass lowlifes; trying to get that woman convicted of a crime she didn't commit to get to his money. Glad they didnt get ****.
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paulf quoted....I feel like the facts have been staring everyone in the face since day one, day one she was put in jail for 18 days and paulo albares the 2nd chief investiative officer acertained the family that he has all the evidence he needs to convict amanda for murder, the 18 days was to work out the finance schedule for the suicide plot but no one wanted to believe it. Not his fans, promoter, friends, or family. They didn't want to accept it, and I understand that. But the man had demons; lots of talented people do -where do you get the facts that make you so certain about the specifics of his demons?.Even the top experts that the family hired to find another possible reason for his death outside of suicide came up empty handed. -NO they did not....and if you've read the report you would know this!.... I think the judge, Brazilian authorities, and American investigators got it right. It's not what people wanted to hear, but I think they got it right. the american investigators??? who erin? you know the story on her?Last edited by airplane; 01-22-2012, 01:53 AM.
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Originally posted by PED User View PostThat 48 Hours segment makes me more inclined to believe he killed himself. You can argue that the episode is biased, then again some other forms of media arguing the other side may be biased as well. It'll probably always be debated.
I wouldn't say I totally feel strongly and I'm sure he committed suicide, it just seems more likely than murder.
It's ridiculous how for so long, people have ******ly tried to play armchair psycholgist "oh Gatti had so much heart in the ring so he would never kill himself". As if everyday life is the same as an athletic competition that lasts less than an hour. Gatti's own brother believes Arturo killed himself, but no, watching someone on TV (who you've never met before) means you really know his mindset and if he was able to kill himself.
Amanda actually may have been a money-grubbing slut, but there are many money-grubbing sluts out there, and most of them are not murderers.
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostThe ******ity and ignorance of most of the boxingScene posters on this thread is beyond belief. I said from the very beginning of the case that he would have had to have been sober when he made the will and that she'd win. The lawyer would have protested if he was drunk. And I suppose, although I don't know Brazilian Law, that it says a guy is entitled to leave his assets to the person of his choice.
i KNOW, that in Canada, regardless of a will such as this, the court will set it aside ( on application) and divide up the estate as if the person had died intestate. THat is; a third to the surviving spouse and the remaining 2 thirds divided equally to any children, whether there were 1-2 or 20.
I expressed surprise that the Canadian court even heard this case, because it did not have a valid basis in law, also, the will was made in a different jurisdiction. I believe that Canadian Law mandates that wills made in other jurisdictions be honoured, but am not certain. All that happened was that the widow may have had to pay out much of the pretty small estate in legal fees etc. which would be a shame. Perhaps the case was dismissed with costs for the defendant, although if so, she would only get whatever fees the court deemed appropriate. But ALL lawyers have their own ideas as to what they're worth, and charge by the hour, and the client has no way of knowing how many hours the lawyer actually spent on the case. He would routinely charge HIS hourly rate for the time his poorly paid assistant would spend looking up precedents in the Law library, or other routine work. Laywers, even if initially honest, become crooks very quickly. So she's sure to have a hefty bill even so.
I'm glad she won, to live with a raving, low quality drunk like Gatti must have been hell, and having the child made it worse. I believe that she married him to get out of her poor life, but I also believe that she must have regretted it very often. She deserves every penny.
No matter how great a warrior Gatti was, and he was that, he wasn't much of anything else.
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Originally posted by Phil Ivey View PostIt's all pretty sketchy but people have to realize what alcohol and depression can do... either she's innocent or a complete sociopath because I watched that doco on the case and she seemed genuinely sad, who knows though. If she did it then it'll take a complete sociopath to stay sane looking at her kid whose name is Arturo Gatti Jr.
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