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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostAin't nothing great about Manny Pacquiao. 7 years and still can't beat a guy convincingly (Juan Manuel Marquez) who has been in tough fights at 135. Moved up to 144, got dominated by Mayweather coming off of semi retirement and almost a year 1/2 later, moved back up to the same catchweight Mayweather shut him (JMM) down at. Pac gets a gift decision and booed out of the arena with cups being thrown at him. Every professional fighter feels Marquez won. What's great about that? Pac also ducked Mosley in 09 after Shane KO'd Margarito and made Cotto defend his title at a catchweight when he already fought at the full limit at WW against Oscar. What's so great about that? JMM spanked his ass and the same JMM couldn't even contend with Mayweather in the ring. Pac is a fraud and the only reason he is regarded is because he smiles, waves and acts dumb. Floyd retired twice and still was ranked higher than Pacquiao at WW, while Pac was active the whole time. What is great about that?
Ali struggled with Frazier and Norton yet Foreman demolished both with extreme ease.
So now lets say that Ali and Foreman acted like Manny and Floyd .... meaning that they never fought each other. Would you have said that Ali was nothing great?
You are using your triangle theories and that has been proven more than once that it doesn't work like that.
Furthermore, using your triangle theories, one can say the same about Floyd in that
- Manny won easily against Hatton at Hatton's best weight.
- Manny stopped Oscar while Floyd had a SD on a part time boxer named Oscar who couldn't pull the trigger no more!
- One year after Floyd went the distance with Mosley, Mosley ran away from Manny and wanted to quit!Last edited by ADP02; 12-14-2011, 08:00 PM.
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Originally posted by sapaw View Postyeah GUST, you dont have beef on Pac, only *****s like you will believe you! lol.
Did Floyd fought Marquez in 144 or only Marquez fought him at 144 while Floyd fought Marquez in differnt weight? then you will say its not about weight why Floyd shutdown Marquez while Pac having problem on Marquez. When I put the name of Oscar as common opponent, I guess you will say about weight this time! lol
It was always a mismatch but Pac still can't beat JMM convincingly. You can tell that Roach was banking on Marquez not being affective at the weight because if he didn't, then he would have fixed Pac's fight game against JMM. You Pac guys are just followers and worshippers. I called it out the gate about the 3rd fight and ain't even a so called "Hall of Fame trainer" Roach said that Pac would KO in the 6th and I said this......
Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI don't believe Manny will KO JMM early because Pac is not a 1 punch KO fighter with exception to Hatton AND when has Marquez ever been knocked out early or in general. I believe Pac can win but I think people are down playing JMM considering Marquez was Pac's toughest fights to date in the first fight and years later in the rematch. I say the second fight was more of a win for Marquez then the first so why are so many saying Marquez is old? He has had the better comp since he last fought Pac. Eventhough Pac fought at the higher weight class longer, Manny still hasn't had a fighter that can give him a competitive fight and Juan Manuel Marquez can. This fight can go either way but I'm not going to cosign Pac KO'n Marquez considering he could not do it in 2 fights years apart with 4 kd's in total. Marquez is a very good technical boxer and if he can fight smart and not get lured into Pac's fight then I see another close fight.
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostAli struggled with Frazier and Norton yet Foreman demolished both with extreme ease.
So now lets say that Ali and Foreman acted like Manny and Floyd .... meaning that they never fought each other. Would you have said that Ali was nothing great?
You are using your triangle theories and that has been proven more than once that it doesn't work like that.
Furthermore, using your triangle theories, one can say the same about Floyd in that
- Manny won easily against Hatton at Hatton's best weight.
- Manny stopped Oscar while Floyd had a SD on a part time boxer named Oscar who couldn't pull the trigger no more!
- One year after Floyd went the distance with Mosley, Mosley ran away from Manny and wanted to quit!
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI truly believe that Manny Pacquiao cannot beat Floyd Mayweather Jr and that's it.
The thing is that you said "Roach and the whole team Pac is a fraud." So why would Floyd want to fight a fraud? Why does everyone want to see that fight happen if Manny is a fraud?
A fraud would not come close to beating those who he beat. A fraud would not have 3 close fights with Marquez unless you consider Marquez to be a fraud as well. Right? Manny beat the following fighters twice: Barrera, Morales, Marquez and also beat guys like Cotto and many more fighters that would make your comment about being a fraud ludicrous! A fraud would not come close to beating those fighters!
... and for your comment about Floyd beating Marquez is a complete joke. For one Marquez was in uncharted territories when he had to go up the first time to 146lbs. With Manny, I have to give it to Marquez. He trained properly so that the weight issue was not an issue. That was NOT the case against the bigger Floyd (146lbs).
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Originally posted by yesir View Postyou cant be serious. Foreman has been one of THE biggest Pac **** suckers through this whole thing while hating on floyd. even when commentating on some of his fights
fact is, the JMM fight has realy opened peoples eyes. you clowns where on Foremans **** when he was sucking Pacs but now hes jealous since he told it like it is.
bwahahaha
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostAin't nothing great about Manny Pacquiao. 7 years and still can't beat a guy convincingly (Juan Manuel Marquez) who has been in tough fights at 135. Moved up to 144, got dominated by Mayweather coming off of semi retirement and almost a year 1/2 later, moved back up to the same catchweight Mayweather shut him (JMM) down at. Pac gets a gift decision and booed out of the arena with cups being thrown at him. Every professional fighter feels Marquez won. What's great about that? Pac also ducked Mosley in 09 after Shane KO'd Margarito and made Cotto defend his title at a catchweight when he already fought at the full limit at WW against Oscar. What's so great about that? JMM spanked his ass and the same JMM couldn't even contend with Mayweather in the ring. Pac is a fraud and the only reason he is regarded is because he smiles, waves and acts dumb. Floyd retired twice and still was ranked higher than Pacquiao at WW, while Pac was active the whole time. What is great about that?Last edited by straightleft; 12-14-2011, 10:18 PM.
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