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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostAin't nothing great about Manny Pacquiao. 7 years and still can't beat a guy convincingly (Juan Manuel Marquez) who has been in tough fights at 135. Moved up to 144, got dominated by Mayweather coming off of semi retirement and almost a year 1/2 later, moved back up to the same catchweight Mayweather shut him (JMM) down at. Pac gets a gift decision and booed out of the arena with cups being thrown at him. Every professional fighter feels Marquez won. What's great about that? Pac also ducked Mosley in 09 after Shane KO'd Margarito and made Cotto defend his title at a catchweight when he already fought at the full limit at WW against Oscar. What's so great about that? JMM spanked his ass and the same JMM couldn't even contend with Mayweather in the ring. Pac is a fraud and the only reason he is regarded is because he smiles, waves and acts dumb. Floyd retired twice and still was ranked higher than Pacquiao at WW, while Pac was active the whole time. What is great about that?
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Originally posted by AFighter4U View Postyour problem man is that you focus only on the negative. Look at George Foreman. The man is a legend on his own, has PROVEN himself as a champion boxer, and has nothing BUT PRAISE for Manny.
yet you talk as if manny ate your dog.
of course you are entitled to your opinion, but i think the opinion of a man who faced another in a ring for a living and was good at it has more weight than yours.Last edited by GRUSTLER; 12-14-2011, 12:36 PM.
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Originally posted by BillyBoxing View PostJMM didn't spank ****, it was a close fight and those who had Marquez winning had him winning by one round.
What's great about Manny is he's destroying good fighters, and struglling with guys like Marquez and Morales or losing a title by ko at 19 years old doesn't hurt Manny greatness B.It's part of the sport.
Many times Manny picked fights where he was suposed to lose, Mayweather never did. Ortiz, Mosley, Marquez, it ain't better than Pacquiao, at least, fighting Mosley, Manny was fighting a old but really bigger guy. Mayweather is fighting old guys, bums, and midgets.
Mayweather's legacy is so much a joke, that you are comparing him with two midgets, two lighweights.
"Floyd beat easier Marquez than Manny bro!!!" That's cool buddy.
Floyd vs Marquez was a size mismatch.
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Originally posted by boxingfan76 View PostHey Grustler you hit it right on the head "Pac is a fraud and the only reason he is regarded is because he smiles, waves and acts dumb" I %100 agree and see through the whole nice guy act,it works for him but all this talk about pac being this"great" has been thouroughly been put to rest by a true great JMM,but this will never be enough to qwell *******s guy needs to get ktfo by floyd or someone that can really once and for all put these greatness claims to rest.Pac is a very good brawler but I simply dont see the greatness,hell probably keep cherry picking opponents till he retires like hes done for years ,hell JMM was a cherry pick they counted on the guy being too old and small and pac still got his ass whooped! Give it up *******s its over the charade is over.
Oh I forgot its all Arum's fault right ?
Arum made Jr go on vacation for a year or two , or retirement ,,,,Ok so I forgot. The charade is OVER !!!
Truth is Nothing will satisfy boxing fans more until these two get into the ring.
After the fight there will be a quiteness on one side while the other side will say I TOLD YOU SO and dancing in the streets.
I hope Arum don't pull his crap and because of his love of money gets in the way. We won't know until after Christmas !!!!!!
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostReally? Pac didn't fight Mosley when it mattered as a matter a fact he officially duck shane. Actually I'm wrong. He had Roach do it for him until he saw Shane was definitely done and that wasn't even after Mayweather but Mora. Floyd did beat Marquez waaaaayyyy easier and coming off of semi retirement for over a year. That same Marquez who drank piss during his training for Mayweather would have still took Pac to hell and back. Any form of JMM is too much to handle for Manny. Floyd NEVER fought for catchweight titles so that alone puts Mayweather above Pac for me AND Floyd don't fight for vacant tiles at catchweights against unranked fighters. Mayweather fought the champions for all of their titles. You say Floyd and Marquez was a size mismatch but you then turn around and probably say Floyd is scared of Pac? If Floyd is a size mismatch for Marquez then what is he for Pac who just got debatably beat by Marquez at 144 where Floyd shut JMM down for 12 rounds? You guys kill me. Always trying to flip it and bounce but not sounding right. Fact of the matter is that Pac admitted that he wanted to outdo Mayweather. Instead of fighting and trying to beat Mayweather, he fought the same opponents after and JMM was supposed to be a sacrifice because team Pac thought he looked bad against Floyd at 144 but Pac got a reality check and now realizes like the rest of the world that Pac ain't no Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Did Floyd fought Marquez in 144 or only Marquez fought him at 144 while Floyd fought Marquez in differnt weight? then you will say its not about weight why Floyd shutdown Marquez while Pac having problem on Marquez. When I put the name of Oscar as common opponent, I guess you will say about weight this time! lol
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