Comments Thread For: George Foreman on Pacquiao's Rise, Mayweather Fight

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lol! ***** logic. You made Marquez look like a bum who Pacquiao can't beat convincingly to discredit Pacquiao. At least Pacquiao beat him without cheating while your idol needs 20 lbs weight advantages to beat Marquez. Pac will beat Mosley, Cotto and Margarito at any weight while Floyd only agreed to fight Mosley when he has more than a year inactivity. Floyd will beat Pacquiao, Cotto and Margarito in fantasy fight. FANTASY! LMAO!

How did I make Marquez look like a bum? He is one of my top fighters and if you read my post about how I saw the 3rd fight going then you would know that I gave Marquez a better shot then alot of people including most likely yourself and everybody else in Pac land. Everyone was screaming Pac is going to KO JMM and beat him worst than Floyd, so if anything Roach, Ariza, Pacquiao fans and many others thought JMM was a bum but NEVER me. When Marquez called Floyd out and Mayweather accepted the challenge everyone said that Floyd was cherry picking. You act like I made it up. So you are saying that Floyd needed 20LBs to beat JMM but what about Pac? He was the smaller man in his fights against Oscar, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley but did that stop him from winning? If Floyd really wanted to impose his weight on Marquez then he would have just went for a KO.

To me that is imposing size on an opponent but all he did was outbox him for 12 lopsided rounds. Pac will beat Mosley, Cotto and Margarito at any weight but he beat Cotto at 145 and Margarito at 150 for catchweight titles and said on his list that Cotto was 147 and Margarito was 154. Pac fought Mosley after Floyd and Mora but ducked him prior in 09 when Mosley had a lil bite left. Get out of here man. I watch and know what's up with boxing. You are brain washed homie. I don't think Floyd would beat them in a fantasy fight. I think Floyd would beat them because he is technically and all around better than them period. Styles make fights and none of them have the style to beat Mayweather.

The only one who I can say is a considerable threat to Floyd is Sergio Martinez at 154. If I'm a ***** then what does that make you in regards to Pac? Because not even the truth is accepted by you non knowledgable boxing, casual fans with no common sense whatsoever. That's why Arum has been able to get away with everything regarding his fighters fighting each other because all he is doing is making money and depriving the real boxing fans of good solid matches with all fighters.

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Many believe the same as you .... many believed Foreman would beat Ali too!

The thing is that you said "Roach and the whole team Pac is a fraud." So why would Floyd want to fight a fraud? Why does everyone want to see that fight happen if Manny is a fraud?

A fraud would not come close to beating those who he beat. A fraud would not have 3 close fights with Marquez unless you consider Marquez to be a fraud as well. Right? Manny beat the following fighters twice: Barrera, Morales, Marquez and also beat guys like Cotto and many more fighters that would make your comment about being a fraud ludicrous! A fraud would not come close to beating those fighters!

... and for your comment about Floyd beating Marquez is a complete joke. For one Marquez was in uncharted territories when he had to go up the first time to 146lbs. With Manny, I have to give it to Marquez. He trained properly so that the weight issue was not an issue. That was NOT the case against the bigger Floyd (146lbs).

Because Bob Arum made Manny Pacquiao out to be the man to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. After the 3rd Marquez fight. No one believes it and even before I never believed it.

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More than half the boxing fans in the world think Pac is great. If you're saying he's not, you're just a *****. Your opinion does not count.

Name wise Manny Pacquiao is great but boxing skill wise he is not.

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George Foreman, a two-time former World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, an Olympic gold medalist, and the hardest hitter in boxing history knows nothing about boxing... there I said it for you guys...

george foreman said lennox lewis is the greatest heavyweight that ever lived.



'just sayin...

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Because Bob Arum made Manny Pacquiao out to be the man to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. After the 3rd Marquez fight. No one believes it and even before I never believed it.

(your response) You tip-pie-toed thru that one!

There is a difference between not being able to see Manny beat Floyd and calling him a fraud. A lot of good fighters have had trouble with certain individuals, as I stated previously with Ali as an example. So even if Manny loses/wins to one guy but is able to beat other top fighters then you can't conclude him to be a fraud.

Again, a fraud doesn't have 3 close fights with Marquez and beat other good fighters.

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More than half the boxing fans in the world think Pac is great. If you're saying he's not, you're just a *****. Your opinion does not count.

This right here is the truth. shame on you gusler smh...

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(your response) You tip-pie-toed thru that one!

There is a difference between not being able to see Manny beat Floyd and calling him a fraud. A lot of good fighters have had trouble with certain individuals, as I stated previously with Ali as an example. So even if Manny loses/wins to one guy but is able to beat other top fighters then you can't conclude him to be a fraud.

Again, a fraud doesn't have 3 close fights with Marquez and beat other good fighters.

Tip toed? I just answered what I thought was interesting in your post. Pac to me is a fraud because he made everyone believe he has improved immensely since Juan Manuel Marquez and that he was this unstoppable force at WW and a serious threat to Floyd Mayweather Jr's undefeated record but at the end of the day. Manny Pacquiao hasn't improved, which makes the fighters he beat not so good because they were bigger and stronger while Marquez was smaller and moving up to a weight that he didn't look good at. Marquez adjusted and improved to Pac's style but Manny didn't to his. Roach and Ariza said that Marquez was a dead man during training only to have the fight come out the way it did? JMM did better in the 3rd fight then he did in the other two and he is older and moved up after fighting some solid opponents at 135. Hell, Juan Diaz had Marquez in more trouble at 135 then Manny did at WW (144) where he was destroying bigger guys. Michael Katsidas dropped Marquez and Pac couldn't? What happend to his much improved right hand and his power? Then after the Marquez fight this dude and his camp complains about cramps? Before the fight Manny was in the best shape and training camp of his life punishing sparring partners and took the Marquez fight very personal. That's why I call him a fraud.

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This right here is the truth. shame on you gusler smh...

More than half the boxing fans think Floyd Mayweather Jr is great. Do you?

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Remember when George thought Tito was winning against Hopkins? LMAO, i'll take his comments with a grain of salt.

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Tip toed? I just answered what I thought was interesting in your post. Pac to me is a fraud because he made everyone believe he has improved immensely since Juan Manuel Marquez and that he was this unstoppable force at WW and a serious threat to Floyd Mayweather Jr's undefeated record but at the end of the day. Manny Pacquiao hasn't improved, which makes the fighters he beat not so good because they were bigger and stronger while Marquez was smaller and moving up to a weight that he didn't look good at. Marquez adjusted and improved to Pac's style but Manny didn't to his. Roach and Ariza said that Marquez was a dead man during training only to have the fight come out the way it did? JMM did better in the 3rd fight then he did in the other two and he is older and moved up after fighting some solid opponents at 135. Hell, Juan Diaz had Marquez in more trouble at 135 then Manny did at WW (144) where he was destroying bigger guys. Michael Katsidas dropped Marquez and Pac couldn't? What happend to his much improved right hand and his power? Then after the Marquez fight this dude and his camp complains about cramps? Before the fight Manny was in the best shape and training camp of his life punishing sparring partners and took the Marquez fight very personal. That's why I call him a fraud.

Marquez fought a different fight with Manny than compared to those others you named. Marquez was not as aggressive with Manny and mainly scored countering Manny. If Marquez fought like he did those other guys you mentioned then Marquez would probably hit that canvas.

Marquez played it smart but too safe if you ask me.

Now just because Manny barely wins instead of clearly destroys Marquez you call Manny a fraud? Marquez came very prepared for the Manny fight. He was basically training for at least half of the year for his fight with Manny. You should be congratulating Marquez for another tough fight instead of calling Manny a fraud.

If Manny needs to destroy everyone he beats then what do you think of Floyd's WW fights? Even the fraud Manny did better than Floyd with most of them!

- So what was Floyd's problem in fighting to a SD against a part time, can't pull the trigger no more Oscar?

- Why did Floyd struggle the first half of the fight against a carreer 140lbs fighter named Hatton?

- Why did we not hear the gassed out, inactive Mosley say to his trainer that he wanted to quit when he fought Floyd?

- Why couldn't Floyd destroy the unprepared, bloated Marquez at 146lbs?

- Why does Floyd continually fight either old rusty opponents (Mosley & Oscar) or guys who have hardly fought at 147 (Marquez, Hatton, Ortiz, Sharmba)? Imagine, I just named 6 of Floyd's 8 WW opponents!!! .... and the other 2 names are no-name Baldomir and the guy who lost to Baldomir ... lol!

How can you see Manny one way but you can't see or say it for Floyd?