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  • Hobo
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    #41
    Cotto should be bigger star.
    Top Rank , I feel did not fully support him. I think he would probably relate better with Oscar cause they both boxed and Oscar lives in Puerto Rico.

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    • edgarg
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      #42
      Originally posted by AntonTheGreat
      cotto is one of few guys in a sport of snakes who isn't a snake. and while most would think it commendable, its not the best way to do business in a business as fickle as this one.

      i would have told arum we're done the minute the fight with margs was over. I'm surprised he didn't, considering how steadfast in his support of margs arum was and how much cotto *****ed about rito.

      its obvious he's angling for pac, so i guess i can understand him staying with TR to avenge his other loss.
      Whilst I like your "name", I don't think much of your thinking processes. Arum is the Promoter for BOTH Cotio and Margarito. He owes BOTH equal loyalty and his best endeavours on behalf of their careers. And he gave it to them. He defended Margarito and spent $1mill because he was certain he was innocent, and needed help. Don't you read news reports and interviews?

      The Commission found Margarito innocent, but HAD to penalise him because "you are the head of your team". They compromised by giving him the smallest penalty allowable. Didn't you at least read the legal documents containing the whole case?

      Arum is a Harvard Law Graduate, Summa Cum Laude in President Kennedy's Administration. That means a brilliant lawyer. I'm sure he explained all this to Cotto in private. Also, as soon as the decision was handed down, he issued a suit against the Commission, asking them to show, how the actual illegal strip of gauze could be harmful to anyone. They couldn't answer him. The facts had finally emerged that the pad_NOT THE WRAPS- was illegal because it contained a single slip of used, slightly stiffened gauze bandage in the centre of the pad. The first Commissioner to touch it said that it "seemed slightly stiffer IN PARTS, as if it had been in water.

      Also there were no "PLASTER COATED WRAPS", no "PLASTER BRICKS"... in fact NO PLASTER at all. There WERE two elements (read "traces") sulphur and calcium, which, combined with another, could make plaster-of-paris. The 3rd element was NOT THERE. The Lab report also said that these items were commonly used in many thousands of manufactured goods, particularly in cosmetics. In fact one report said that the traces were from HAND CREAM.

      So what the hell you expect Arum to do??? In fact, you may not know, since it seems you don't read reports, that Cotto is on record in print and on camera in saying he did not believe that Margarito knew. Why he changed I don't know, maybe in the beginning to boost up the promotion as a grudge fight....?? Maybe after winning, ready for a 3rd fight....who knows. Ask HIM.

      You seem to have the beginnings of a Looney fantasist in you, instead of a logical, critical boxing thinker.

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      • edgarg
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        #43
        Originally posted by Hobo
        Cotto should be bigger star.
        Top Rank , I feel did not fully support him. I think he would probably relate better with Oscar cause they both boxed and Oscar lives in Puerto Rico.
        Do they also both prance around in womens' wigs undies and stockings-and pay **********s a reported $20 mill, not to mentin drugs and booze?? The only quality they have in common is that they are both human. Oscar has a house in Puerto Rico, likely where his wife and kids live, out of the way of his other "preferred" life style..

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        • edgarg
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          #44
          Originally posted by RuMbLe
          De La Hoya wouldn't stand back to allow Marquez to get the fight with Pacquiao. Marquez had to leave them to get that fight and they **** on him publicly afterwards after all his years with them.

          Just like they did with Mosley when they kicked him out after he sought the Pac fight, telling him to **** offf and sending him a cheque for 1000 dollars for all his years of service and stake in GBP.

          De La Hoya, the guy who once said his dream was to become the sports first billionaire, is as big a snake as they come. GBP are in the game for all they can get, and nothing else. And they underpay there fighters. Canelo hasn't even had a 1 million dollar payday despite setting stadium and HBO veiwership records.

          Cotto would be a fool to leave Top Rank for them and let them and Mayweather **** him for a big fight. He'd deserve atleast 15 million for a Mayweather fight, no way they'd pay him that with Mayweather demanding 100% of the PPV and promoter revenue.
          You're the very first poster who writes sense and truth concerning Golden Balls. I thought I was the only one. Yes, Mosley was supposed to be a "partner" but I think it was just a publicity stunt, he turns up in a suit at weigh-ins etc. A flunky. He had no executive abilities, and I think he must have had only one single share, like the others, including Hopkins, for whom, wearing a suit is an enjoyable experience.

          I recall him saying that they'd ignored and ditched him, sending him $1000 and took his share, he didn't kow what it about, he didn't even have the right to say anything about it. Don't think Marquez was a "partner" but Barrera was, an extra thumb like the other big names, used for publicity, and he left Golden Balls with long-time bad feelings. I think, being a Law student, he realised he'd been duped.

          There was a lot Oscar didn't pick up from Arum, or else he'd have become a much better promoter. I recall his phony talk that he'd "arrived" to give boxers a fair deal, like a Messiah........ He'd just simply forgotten where he came from, and who made him into a star.

          Yet, when he realised he'd got himsefl into a mess with the Pacquiao slander and libel case, causing him to break down, Arum quickly and, in my opinion, magnanimously forgave him, although I'd bet it cost Oscar a pretty penny, plus his minute share in MannyP's promotion share that he'd squeezed out of Arum with that fake law suit. Amazing how quickly he recovered after that????? And today, a short few months after, is still the same old, slimy, falsely smiling, Oscar.

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          • talz
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            #45
            Best fights for cotto would be at Golden boy because pac would beat him again and JCC is too big tbh. But fights with Mayweather,Alveraz, Khan, Ortiz, Kirkland would be big.

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            • Ringlife
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              #46
              Cotto needs to move on and sign with GBP And leave Bob Arum it will be hard for him to do because Bob has done a lot for cotto but Bob can't offer cotto no more fights where he can get a lot of money like GBP can.

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              • AntonTheMeh
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                #47
                Originally posted by edgarg
                Whilst I like your "name", I don't think much of your thinking processes. Arum is the Promoter for BOTH Cotio and Margarito. He owes BOTH equal loyalty and his best endeavours on behalf of their careers. And he gave it to them. He defended Margarito and spent $1mill because he was certain he was innocent, and needed help. Don't you read news reports and interviews?

                The Commission found Margarito innocent, but HAD to penalise him because "you are the head of your team". They compromised by giving him the smallest penalty allowable. Didn't you at least read the legal documents containing the whole case?

                Arum is a Harvard Law Graduate, Summa Cum Laude in President Kennedy's Administration. That means a brilliant lawyer. I'm sure he explained all this to Cotto in private. Also, as soon as the decision was handed down, he issued a suit against the Commission, asking them to show, how the actual illegal strip of gauze could be harmful to anyone. They couldn't answer him. The facts had finally emerged that the pad_NOT THE WRAPS- was illegal because it contained a single slip of used, slightly stiffened gauze bandage in the centre of the pad. The first Commissioner to touch it said that it "seemed slightly stiffer IN PARTS, as if it had been in water.

                Also there were no "PLASTER COATED WRAPS", no "PLASTER BRICKS"... in fact NO PLASTER at all. There WERE two elements (read "traces") sulphur and calcium, which, combined with another, could make plaster-of-paris. The 3rd element was NOT THERE. The Lab report also said that these items were commonly used in many thousands of manufactured goods, particularly in cosmetics. In fact one report said that the traces were from HAND CREAM.

                So what the hell you expect Arum to do??? In fact, you may not know, since it seems you don't read reports, that Cotto is on record in print and on camera in saying he did not believe that Margarito knew. Why he changed I don't know, maybe in the beginning to boost up the promotion as a grudge fight....?? Maybe after winning, ready for a 3rd fight....who knows. Ask HIM.

                You seem to have the beginnings of a Looney fantasist in you, instead of a logical, critical boxing thinker.
                lol. this post is a fail on so many levels. you're bringing all of this **** it up as if my opinion means anything in this. what i think regarding the controversy is irrelevant.

                however, what one man (miguel) thinks of another (margarito) and the opinion of the man that presents them both (arum) in regard to this matter does. cotto said he felt margarito played with his life. arum disagrees with the accusation. do i need to spell it out for you?


                looney fantasist? stop reaching and try again "smart" guy.

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