Floyd and JMM not the same

[LeG00N]

call me crazy but i do believe Floyds the best adapter in the sport

I disagree, I think JMM is a superior adapter.

we clearly see him adapt in fights like...

Pacquiao I, Diaz I, Katsidis etc

[Light_Speed]

The only thing Mayweather counters is AIR! To counter someone means your punch landed, Floyds didn't.

Floyd is not on the counter punching level Marquez is.

The point is he attacked right before Marquez got his offense going so people saying he always waits until his opponent is done are clearly wrong.

Marquez is a better counter puncher than Floyd? Can Marquez counter while being the aggressor?

I disagree, I think JMM is a superior adapter.

we clearly see him adapt in fights like...

Pacquiao I, Diaz I, Katsidis etc

How did he adapt against John and Norwood?

[UglyPug]

ive been preaching thefact that they are diff fighters for a long time. . .


marquez counters with more aggression, and follows up his attacks with combinations and higher volume. . . he has more balls so he takes more risks. . not to mention, if we are talking about fighting manny, marquez had 24 rounds of experience . . .

mayweather is not a "super marquez"; they are different fighters. . .

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[AlwaysOnTop]

The only thing Mayweather counters is AIR! To counter someone means your punch landed, Floyds didn't.

Floyd is not on the counter punching level Marquez is.

Hahahahaha

Floyd is one of the most accurate fighters in history..

[AlwaysOnTop]

ive been preaching thefact that they are diff fighters for a long time. . .


marquez counters with more aggression, and follows up his attacks with combinations and higher volume. . . he has more balls so he takes more risks. . not to mention, if we are talking about fighting manny, marquez had 24 rounds of experience . . .

mayweather is not a "super marquez"; they are different fighters. . .

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Mayweather does everything better than Marquez.

As for JMM having more balls..that's just bi.tch talk..

[UglyPug]

Mayweather does everything better than Marquez.

As for JMM having more balls..that's just bi.tch talk..

possibly true. . . but marquez does things DIFFERENTLY than floyd, which in turn, makes it "better" when fighting a style like pacquiao. . .

it is just plain ignorance to assume mayweather dominates manny because he dominated marquez, and marquez fights on an even keel with manny.

[AlwaysOnTop]

possibly true. . . but marquez does things DIFFERENTLY than floyd, which in turn, makes it "better" when fighting a style like pacquiao. . .

it is just plain ignorance to assume mayweather dominates manny because he dominated marquez, and marquez fights on an even keel with manny.

Different and better are not the same..especially in this case.

Floyd is so much faster and has that devastating BODY JAB..

Pac squares-up preferctly for it too...

Pac has very little experience facing SPEED...Floyd has seen it all...Manny hasn't...he's sheltered from certain styles..

They didn't even let Manny fight Zahir Raheem...lol

[Carpe Diem]

Just read an article about Roach saying that the two are completely different even though both are counter punchers and that they could exploit some flaws Floyd has.

I know I might get bashed from Floyd fans and i am a Floyd fan and think he has the edge on Manny but i think what Roach says is true. Their counter punching style is completely different and JMM takes some risks that Floyd would never take. The big flaw I see in Floyd is he doesn't use his legs to move anymore. He is content with blocking the punches and twisting and turning and it works. His opponent's connect rate is low but i think it puts him in a situation where he gets hit with that one big punch that can knock him out. If you fight a guy like Manny, you cannot just stay there and twist and turn and thats what Floyd does.

Have ever pay any close attention to how his opponents are moving? For instance, when Floyd fought Marquez, he was constantly side-stepping and pivoted around because that's exactly how Marquez move, and he adapted to his movement. Whereas, when he fought both Mosley and Ortiz, those two didn't shown any side-steps pivot movements, and they moved forward in a straight line constantly.

[Light_Speed]

possibly true. . . but marquez does things DIFFERENTLY than floyd, which in turn, makes it "better" when fighting a style like pacquiao. . .

it is just plain ignorance to assume mayweather dominates manny because he dominated marquez, and marquez fights on an even keel with manny.

He thinks differently but he's a counter puncher. Floyd is a different type of counter puncher but he's still a counter puncher and a better one. People keep saying "styles make fights and JMM and Floyd have two different styles" well there's a difference between big categories of style (brawler, puncher, boxer, etc) and nuances within these styles. If you lose or win a close fight against one fighter from the counter puncher category, chances are you will lose to another fighter from that same category but who has the speed, size, height and reach advantage, regardless of how differently he uses counter punching.

[bose]

FLOYD PUNCHs MARQUEZ, MARQUEZ COUNTERS FLOYD. Big man, little man. On counter puncing alone, Marquez wins hands down. Counter punching, combination punching/counter punching, Marquez all day every day.