Floyd and JMM not the same

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  • mathed
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    #21
    Originally posted by beatnutts
    Just read an article about Roach saying that the two are completely different even though both are counter punchers and that they could exploit some flaws Floyd has.

    I know I might get bashed from Floyd fans and i am a Floyd fan and think he has the edge on Manny but i think what Roach says is true. Their counter punching style is completely different and JMM takes some risks that Floyd would never take. The big flaw I see in Floyd is he doesn't use his legs to move anymore. He is content with blocking the punches and twisting and turning and it works. His opponent's connect rate is low but i think it puts him in a situation where he gets hit with that one big punch that can knock him out. If you fight a guy like Manny, you cannot just stay there and twist and turn and thats what Floyd does.

    This is exactly why I said that people using Pac's performance against JMM as a measuring stick for how he would do in a Mayweather fight are way, way off. They are two completely different animals.....If Pac throws a bunch of punches and traps Floyd on the ropes, Floyd is gonna be in trouble.

    If Pac boxes with Floyd, he will struggle himself but the activity of Pac and the odd angles is going to be the story of the fight.

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    • FeFist
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      #22
      Originally posted by JoeyNumbers
      If Floyd fights professionally, then he wins the fight easy (like Marquez). If Floyd gets ****y and tries and trades with Pac( Like his last 3 fights), there could be an upset. Not sure which Floyd which show up.
      Fixed it for you, fighting to exploit your opponents weaknesses and maximize your strengths is smart boxing. If he disrespects Pacquiao like he did Ortiz ( leading with a right uppercut) then an upset could happen.

      Also Mayweather style of countering would be worse for Pacquiao as he can do it from the outside. Marquez style of countering at gives the two fighters and opportunity to engage which allows Pacquiao to score points.

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      • [SyrianUser]
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        #23
        Originally posted by treason1
        no i think marquez is ahead of him by far !!!! just look at the first fight against manny to now !!!!!






        i would like to see a link where roach says mayweather would give manny more problems !!!!!

        How tough Roach thinks the Mayweather fight would be if it happens:

        "Very difficult fight. He is a good counter-puncher and his style does give us trouble. He does have some Marquez similarities but he's actually a lot faster than Marquez so he does pose a bigger problem.

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        • treason1
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          #24
          Originally posted by Light_Speed
          Counters Marquez before Marquez gets his offense going :

          [IMG]http://i758.***********.com/albums/xx229/dcrjmed2014/33or439jpg.gif[/IMG]

          Counters Ortiz as Ortiz is throwing :



          [IMG]http://*******.com/3lznscg[/IMG]


          but !!!! and this is a big but mayweather only threw 1 punch !!!!! while a true perfectionist like marquez wouldve countered with 3-4 punches in return !!!!! and aside for the 1 punch at the begining of marquez flurry mayfeathers DIDNT throw another punch instead he waited for marquez to finish before he started his offense !!!!!!!!!!!! oh and one more thing ....... um never mind !!! i was going to mention how marquez was basically out of shape and fat going into that fight but i changed my mind and i wont bring it up !!!!!!!!!

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            #25
            Originally posted by Walt Liquor
            you think pac fought the same vs margs as he did vs shane?
            definitely.

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            • deliveryman
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              #26
              Originally posted by Walt Liquor
              you think pac fought the same vs jmm as he did vs cotto?
              damn right he did.

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              • deliveryman
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                #27
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                you think pac fought the same vs JMM and Margs?
                Yuppers...

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                • Light_Speed
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by treason1
                  but !!!! and this is a big but mayweather only threw 1 punch !!!!! while a true perfectionist like marquez wouldve countered with 3-4 punches in return !!!!! and aside for the 1 punch at the begining of marquez flurry mayfeathers DIDNT throw another punch instead he waited for marquez to finish before he started his offense !!!!!!!!!!!! oh and one more thing ....... um never mind !!! i was going to mention how marquez was basically out of shape and fat going into that fight but i changed my mind and i wont bring it up !!!!!!!!!
                  And Marquez would have missed with half his shots and would have been hit in return.

                  And don't try to change the subect, Chump...I mean Chups said Floyd always waits until his opponent's attack is finished before he attacks and I proved him wrong. End of discussion.

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                  • bose
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Light_Speed
                    Counters Marquez before Marquez gets his offense going :

                    [IMG]http://i758.***********.com/albums/xx229/dcrjmed2014/33or439jpg.gif[/IMG]
                    The only thing Mayweather counters is AIR! To counter someone means your punch landed, Floyds didn't.

                    Floyd is not on the counter punching level Marquez is.

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                    • AFighter4U
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by [SyrianUser]
                      How tough Roach thinks the Mayweather fight would be if it happens:

                      "Very difficult fight. He is a good counter-puncher and his style does give us trouble. He does have some Marquez similarities but he's actually a lot faster than Marquez so he does pose a bigger problem.

                      http://deadspin.com/5866464/manny-pa...yweather-fight
                      well, Floyd is LITERALLY a bigger fighter than marquez, so not only is he accepted to be faster than marquez, but bigger, so logically he's a BIGGER problem.

                      problems are there to be dealt with, and Manny's the dude to resolve such a problem.

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