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  • Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
    Eh, I had to drop that comment. I think Pacquiao did say the body shot hurt him a bit, so I can't act like it's not true if Pac admitted it himself. My bad.
    Oh wait... Pac was definitely hurt by the body punch Marg landed against the ropes. It didn't take Pac admitting he was hurt to see that. I said this in a post about an hour ago..

    Did you say that Marg didn't hurt Pac with a body shot or were you just saying that TV does in fact catch punches not seen ringside?

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    • Originally posted by any craic lad? View Post
      Well Gabe Montoya a well known boxing writer said he seen the wraps and they were not as described.He said they were like credit cards then small blocks and they were not that hard
      Articles that I read explained that the wraps would harden as the fight progressed. Harder than they already were. But that still doesn't explain the fact that they were "pre-used".

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      • Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
        Here is a thought

        NY only or no fight

        10 ounce gloves (everlast)

        Catchweight

        Surprise guest ****m Richardson

        all of this was supposed to give miguel a big mental advantage going in, and in the end, he won the fight the only way he could, the Dr stopping it due to the eye that is the only way Cotto can beat Margarito.

        He said he was going after it we knew he was, But all of these that I listed show me a fighter who does not believe in himself...

        Cus to be honest he didnt need to go through all of this for the fight to turn out the way it did... Everybody knew he would out box Marg early.

        Marg wasnt going to win on points we knew that, but the moment the fight shifted in Mags favor the Dr stopped it..

        I dont know how anybody can be proud of that kind of win..
        But if its the only way you can beat this man maybe its okay to be proud of that...

        Maybe he didn't believe in himself. I mean he was beaten to a bloody pulp the first time around. It's human reaction to be a bit uncomfortable going into a rematch with someone that did this to you. In fact, I'm pretty sure that fighters that get TKO'd, don't go on to win the rematch normally.

        But with that said, it doesn't take someone who's not extremely confident in their abilities to have stipulations to a fight... Look at the history of boxing and all the stipulations/agreements outside of the rulebook that were made before the fight happened. I think this is the normal business side of the boxing.

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        • Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
          Here is a thought

          NY only or no fight

          10 ounce gloves (everlast)

          Catchweight

          Surprise guest ****m Richardson

          all of this was supposed to give miguel a big mental advantage going in, and in the end, he won the fight the only way he could, the Dr stopping it due to the eye that is the only way Cotto can beat Margarito.

          He said he was going after it we knew he was, But all of these that I listed show me a fighter who does not believe in himself...

          Cus to be honest he didnt need to go through all of this for the fight to turn out the way it did... Everybody knew he would out box Marg early.

          Marg wasnt going to win on points we knew that, but the moment the fight shifted in Mags favor the Dr stopped it..

          I dont know how anybody can be proud of that kind of win..
          But if its the only way you can beat this man maybe its okay to be proud of that...
          NY only? He filled the place with his people, who knows this could be his last fight. Why not NY?

          The catchweight and gloves go both ways brother. It affects both.

          ****m. When I saw him, the wife and I were like WHAT!?

          Cotto did what he had to do to win. Im sure some of those shots to Margs head were soul-satisfying.

          If Cotto fought like how you wanted him too, What like the first fight? He wouldve lost again.

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          • Originally posted by Check View Post
            There's no leg to stand on any longer, the reasons just keep piling up. Lets take a quick look at why Margarito would cheat against Shane Mosley but not Miguel Cotto.

            In the Shane Mosley fight, as we all know Margarito was caught for illegal wraps. Looking back at this fight we will notice that Margarito was a huge favorite(why cheat), had homecourt advantage, and all the confidence in the world from winning the biggest fight of his career. One of the reasons why he was a huge favorite was Shane Mosley, an old guy that most thought was washed up and done was coming off the Ricardo Mayorga fight where he looked very poor except for the last few seconds and like I said Margarito was coming off his biggest fight, a fight where most spectators considered Margarito some kind of monster.

            Rewind to the first Cotto fight and you see the direct opposite. Cotto was young, coming off impressive win after impressive win, and was a 2:1 favorite coming in. Margarito was an after thought, this was Miguels coming out party. Remember Margarito before hand was fighting on Miguels undercard versus a guy named Golden Johnson. This was his last chance and he certainly couldn't afford another loss(already had 5 going in).

            So why? Why would a guy cheat in a fight with all the advantages possible but not in the fight where his back was against the wall? A fight that he had to win?

            Fast forward to last nights fight, more evidence. Margarito was landing the same punches and it clearly didn't have the same power behind it. Power is the last thing a fighters losses, yet it wasn't there. People are quick to point out that Miguel was still swollen but Miguel was swollen against powderpuff Yuri Foreman. The fight against Margarito has left his skin very tender and he's going to swell no matter way, so that argument goes out the window.

            It's sad that he had to cheat, it really is. IMO, even a confession isn't enough because the damage has affected the way Miguel fights. It made him gun shy in the Pac fight and derailed a career that could of been legendary. It's sad, it really is but I'm glad the book is closed and Miguel can move on but people need to accept that on that summer night in 2008, there was illegal wraps used.
            Everything you stated was logical and methodical, I even posted something similar a while back, and with that said....

            expect much hatred from cheato fans......

            NOW MUHH****AS TALKING ABOUT IF HE HAD X2 GOOD EYES!!!

            CHEATO BEGGED FOR THIS ASS WHOOPIN AND HE GOT WHAT HE WANTED!!!!

            PLAIN AND SIMPLE... BUT MOST ON HERE ARE COMPLETE ******S SO DONT EXPECT MUCH IN THE THOUGHT OF LOGICAL RESPONSES...

            OF COURSE CHEATO ****IN CHEATED!!

            YOU DIDNT SEE THE SAME CHEATO LAST NIGHT, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT CHEATO HAS A BEARD, BUT GODDAMN HE WAS ROASTED LAST NIGHT. IN THEIR PRIOR FIGHT HE WOULD TAKE PUNISHMENT TO GIVE PLASTER PLAIN AND SIMPLE... CHEATED AGAINST COTTO AND TRIED TO CHEAT AGAINST MOSLEY.....

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            • Originally posted by clmags12 View Post
              ny only? He filled the place with his people, who knows this could be his last fight. Why not ny?

              The catchweight and gloves go both ways brother. It affects both.

              ****m. When i saw him, the wife and i were like what!?

              Cotto did what he had to do to win. Im sure some of those shots to margs head were soul-satisfying.

              If cotto fought like how you wanted him too, what like the first fight? He wouldve lost again.
              exactly, how many rounds did margarito win again???

              What was the compubox sats again???

              Cotto put it on his ass plain and simple!!!!!

              Margarito couldnt and wouldnt do ****....

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              • Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH View Post
                exactly, how many rounds did margarito win again???

                What was the compubox sats again???

                Cotto put it on his ass plain and simple!!!!!

                Margarito couldnt and wouldnt do ****....
                Marg won zero rounds, I know.

                Compubox had 86 shots, to the right upper area of Tonys head. Only thing I remember. haha

                I know Cotto won last night, but if he fought like in 08- wouldve lost. Thats all what I was saying.

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                • Originally posted by Slip Stream View Post
                  For me it isn't so much that Margarito used illegal wraps anymore, now it's my confusion about people that continue to defend this guy's conduct and call him a "warrior" that has "heart."
                  Exactly man.

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                  • Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
                    Here is a thought

                    NY only or no fight

                    10 ounce gloves (everlast)

                    Catchweight

                    Surprise guest ****m Richardson

                    all of this was supposed to give miguel a big mental advantage going in, and in the end, he won the fight the only way he could, the Dr stopping it due to the eye that is the only way Cotto can beat Margarito.

                    He said he was going after it we knew he was, But all of these that I listed show me a fighter who does not believe in himself...

                    Cus to be honest he didnt need to go through all of this for the fight to turn out the way it did... Everybody knew he would out box Marg early.

                    Marg wasnt going to win on points we knew that, but the moment the fight shifted in Mags favor the Dr stopped it..

                    I dont know how anybody can be proud of that kind of win..
                    But if its the only way you can beat this man maybe its okay to be proud of that...
                    Hahaha! Funniest post yet!! That is a joke right! Oh wait its bazooka 3x below average iq of a child.

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                    • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      There is no proof that he did....Last night proved nothing.

                      And, yes there are reasons why he tried to cheat against Mosley while not cheating against Cotto.
                      You my friend are a dumbass...if you were a detective you would be the worst.

                      You probably would have trouble with 10 piece puzzle...lol

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