Mayweather says lies are being told; denies negotiations are taking place

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

So as long as there is a defamation suit there's no reason to talk about a potential fight? Then why go out calling the man out, saying that you want to fight him. Getting a date, securing a venue when you have no intentions to negotiate anything while the suit is ongoing?

Both can go to hell....Honestly both should take their circus act to retirement. All they do is lie and contradict themselves. The hell with both camps.

^^^This.^^^

[Sin City]

MAYWEATHER SAYS LIES ARE BEING TOLD; DENIES NEGOTIATIONS ARE TAKING PLACE
By Ben Thompson | December 03, 2011

Several hours after FightHype.com disclosed the identity of Carl Harris, CEO of Big InterSports Group, and details about his buy-out offer that was pitched to Manny Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum decided to reveal the identity of another investment group, Falcon Hawk Entertainment, a company headed up by Donny Rucker, Mike Garibay, and Joseph Jackson, father of the late Michael Jackson. Speaking to Michael Marley of Examiner.com, Arum would explain that a meeting with representatives of the company took place last Monday at his home in Las Vegas. Shortly after Marley's story was published, at 5:11 PM ET, I immediately received an email with the subject line "Pacquiao, Mayweather Press Release" from Mike Garibay, Vice President of Falcon Hawk Entertainment, explaining that they were "one of the wealthy investor groups" mentioned by Bob Arum and instructing me to contact Mr. Donny Rucker, President of Falcon Hawk Entertainment, for further questions. There was also a link provided, directing me to Michael Marley's article for additional information, and attached was an interesting press release, which looked rushed given the numerous grammatical errors, proclaiming that a breakthrough was made in the Pacquiao-Mayweather "Welterweight Fight of the Century". According to the press release, Roger Mayweather and Jeff Mayweather were instrumental in "bringing Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Michael Koncz together to discuss crucial issues pertaining [to] the proposed fight." Skeptical of some of the information outlined in the press release, I contacted Floyd Mayweather himself and spoke to him on the phone as he was on his way to an appearance at the Riverfront Ballroom in Detroit, Michigan.

Contrary to popular belief, according to Floyd Mayweather, absolutely no negotiations are taking place. As far as he's concerned, if any serious negotations were going on, they would be taking place with his adviser, Al Haymon, and Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe. When I informed him about the press release that I received, Mayweather made it crystal clear that whatever is being put out there to the media is a lie, as he doesn't even need investors for the fight. In fact, he's convinced that Bob Arum still doesn't want to make the fight. The news may seem surprising to some considering the reports of Michael Koncz visiting Mayweather at his gym last week. In fact, the press release sent out by Falcon Hawk Entertainment suggested that the gym meeting between Mayweather and Koncz was "a confirmation by both camps to move forward with negotiations." Mayweather's recollection of the meeting, however, echoed comments previously made by Leonard Ellerbe, noting that no negotiations ever took place. Mayweather explained to me that his uncles, Jeff and Roger Mayweather, were simply being used by individuals who were looking to get close to him in hopes of pushing their own agenda. Just as Ellerbe explained, Mayweather said he was simply shaking out at the gym when his Uncle Jeff asked him if some guy could in. Not wanting to be rude, Mayweather obliged, thinking that it was simply a fan wanting to take a picture. At which point, Koncz walked in, introduced himself, and immediately began talking about making a fight. Having absolutely no idea who he was, it was the fist time that Mayweather had ever heard the name Michael Koncz, so he politely let him finish his pitch before informing him that there was absolutely nothing to talk about until his defamation lawsuit is cleared up.

As our conversation continued, it was clear that Mayweather was getting more irritated as I spoke more about the press release and what was being said by Bob Arum to various media outlets. One surprising statement in the press release suggested that "goodwill and harmony" was brought to the meeting between Mayweather and Falcon Hawk Entertainment due to the fact that his fiancé, Shantel Jackson, was a niece of Joe Jackson. According to Mayweather, that's news to him, as he informed me that Miss Jackson is no kin to Joe Jackson, does not know Joe Jackson, and does not get involved in his boxing business. Again, Mayweather reiterated to me that anything that Bob Arum or anyone else is saying about negotiations taking place is a lie. While he does think that Manny Pacquiao wants to make the fight for the money, he simply doesn't believe that Bob Arum wants to make the fight and is doing whatever he can, including meeting with investors who have no realistic chance of being involved in the fight, to keep from being exposed. As a matter of fact, shortly after getting off the phone with Mayweather, I learned that this is not the first time that Mr. Donny Rucker has pitched an offer for the fight, having already been turned down twice before.

Look, if negotiations were REALLY going on, as some of you seem to believe, then why would Floyd Mayweather even bother to pick up his phone and speak to little ol' me to dispute it? He could easily ignore my phone call and keep it moving, going on about his business of allegedly negotiating a fight in secrecy while Arum continues to tell his version of what's going on in public to the media. Lies, lies, lies Mayweather would repeat to me over and over again, making it abundantly clear that there's no way he would be negotiating through a 3rd party like Michael Koncz. As far as he's concerned, if Al Haymon's not involved, there's really nothing to talk about, and with the defamation lawsuit still unresolved, there's not much talking he plans on doing. Interestingly enough, at the time of this writing, no other media outlet has published this press release. In fact, the only person who actually has published it is Michael Marley, the same boxing scribe that Bob Arum has been kind enough to release details about these "serious offers" and alleged negotiations.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED, CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD THE PRESS RELEASE THAT WAS SENT OUT (not currently available)


http://fighthype.com/pages/content11...8021eca2e3ea09

you can talk all you want about Pacquiao's team not wanting the fight but this to me [in the purple] lets you know Mayweather doesn't want it either.. if in fact, negotiations are going on.

[Sin City]

you heard it from fight hype themselves.. floyd DOESN'T want to make the fight.. he hasn't done anything to reach out and make it either. why? over a defamation lawsuit.

so you can't say anyone is ducking anyone.
but at least Pacquiao wants the fight.. it's his promoter that doesnt (if this article indeed is true) which I doubt it.. since they've changed their tune quite a few times within this last week..

[WESS]

If the lawsuit is so weak, why is Floyd so desperate to get it dropped. I mean, he stands to make $75 million to fight Pacquiao... but he'd be willing to let that go because of a 'weak ass lawsuit'.

That doesn't add up.

Because the investors that Bob is working with require it to be dropped...

[COACH WEBB]

you heard it from fight hype themselves.. floyd DOESN'T want to make the fight.. he hasn't done anything to reach out and make it either. why? over a defamation lawsuit.

so you can't say anyone is ducking anyone.
but at least Pacquiao wants the fight.. it's his promoter that doesnt (if this article indeed is true) which I doubt it.. since they've changed their tune quite a few times within this last week..

Why lie? Schafer and GBP reached out to Arum through a mediator RIGHT after the Marquez fight. Only for Arum to say that they are pursuing a fourth Manny-Marquez fight. This is ALL after Arum talked about how if they call him (after the Marquez fight), they could get the fight done.

"We have been informed that Bob Arum is not interested in pursuing a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao at this time," Schaefer said.

Schaefer said the notification came in an email from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, the mediator who has worked closely with the sides to settle numerous lawsuits and issues in recent years.

But Arum did say, "We are pursuing a fourth fight with Marquez. As far as doing anything definitively, we aren't ready to do anything definitively. When we are ready to make a determination of what we are going to do, we will do it. We are not going to do this in the press. We will do what is in the best interest of ourselves and our client and make a decision when it's time to. If we decide we want to do a rematch with Marquez, there is no reason to sit down with Mayweather. If we want to explore a Mayweather fight, we will sit down with them. But I'm not going to sit down with them just because it's a good show."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7235880/floyd-mayweather-jr-aide-says-manny-pacquiao-camp-even-talk-fight

[illwill112]

Lol the fight will probably never happen , at least now we know who were the duckers

Yeah your boy may for the last three now Arum.

[ThePrince]

Arum has admitted that Mayweather's team reached out to him before and after the Marquez fight to commence negotiations. This is documented my man.

Meaning he lied, right. Everything Arum says/admits/etc is a lie... or at least that's what I've been lead to believe.

Wow you're ignorant and arrogant, not a good combo. You look silly implying that the fight needs to be sold to a group of investors. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and it's obvious. Even if you think that Arum is serious about wanting to go along with what the investors propose, then explain why he himself wouldn't take the investors to the guys that handle Mayweather's business to have a a serious sitdown? Again, it's been documented that Mayweather's team has already reached out to Arum directly and through a 3rd party. Why send someone who holds no weight with Mayweather and his team to his gym to try and pitch him on some wild new proposal? Why would you then run and lie to the public about what Mayweather has decided to do? I'll answer for you, you do that when you're not really serious about doing business but want to give the illusion that you are. You pull stunts like this when you're trying to manipulate the public and make them belive something that isn't true.

How else are they going to come up with $50-75 million per fighter? Does Floyd, Arum, or Haymon have $100-$150 mil hidden in their mattress? Even if they did, it wouldn't amount to profit.

[jcpryor]

you heard it from fight hype themselves.. floyd DOESN'T want to make the fight.. he hasn't done anything to reach out and make it either. why? over a defamation lawsuit.

so you can't say anyone is ducking anyone.
but at least Pacquiao wants the fight.. it's his promoter that doesnt (if this article indeed is true) which I doubt it.. since they've changed their tune quite a few times within this last week..

Why do people keep saying this when Bob Arum himself has already said that if Floyd is serious about making the fight that he would drop the lawsuit? According to Bob Arum, that wouldn't even be a roadblock in negotiations. I don't understand why people act so dumb - even after they get presented facts and evidence contrary to their positions.

It makes no difference whether or not Pacquiao wants to fight Mayweather if he isn't going to force Arum to negotiate in good faith. Pacquiao has to sign any contract for whatever opponent that he fights. You don't send a random person to Mayweather's gym, when he doesn't even know whats going on, and claim that you were in negotiations. A 3rd grader can see that Arum wants no parts of a Mayweather negotiation. Apparently there are Pacquiao fans here that haven't reached that grade level, though.

[jaestix1]

you heard it from fight hype themselves.. floyd DOESN'T want to make the fight.. he hasn't done anything to reach out and make it either. why? over a defamation lawsuit.

so you can't say anyone is ducking anyone.
but at least Pacquiao wants the fight.. it's his promoter that doesnt (if this article indeed is true) which I doubt it.. since they've changed their tune quite a few times within this last week..

pacroid DOESN'T want the fight.....if he did, floyd would've whooped his ass a long time ago. too bad he's a coward that hides behind arum. the whole reason this fight hasn't happened is because pacroid and pacroid alone

[ThePrince]

Because the investors that Bob is working with require it to be dropped...

Why would they care about the weak ass lawsuit though? Unless it was a request made by Floyd in negotiations... but wait... no negotiations ever happened and those investors are figments of Arum's overactive imagination. I guess this means Floyd will go on another extended vacation and print 'If you the best, drop the lawsuit' t-shirts now?

Take the test, Manny! That's the only thing holding up the fight.

Idiots.