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  • #51
    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
    If Cotto does beat Margarito, I think he deserves the Pacman rematch. He has good boxing skills & may have learned a thing or 2 from the schooling Marquez dished out this past November.

    Also I believe that if Cotto does get the Pacman rematch, then it's time to push Tito aside. If Cotto beats Pacman, he's the champ that people should start respecting as one of the greates from Rico.
    I agree. I also think Cotto was doing well in the first fight until the end of the 4th, he got caught with a good shot and instead of just moving away he tried to fire back in a trade situation and got nailed with an uppercut...that all but ended the fight.

    His jab was working nice and he was boxing well, only when he got caught and allowed the red mist to come down was when he ran into trouble. A composed Cotto could win that fight, not to mention a Cotto that isn't weight drained.

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    • #52
      I just became a huge Cotto fan.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Casual_Fan View Post
        Tito's win against ODLH (regardless of personal feeling about the decision) simply cannot be equaled by Cotto.

        Neither Floyd nor Pac are right now as mainstream as ODLH was. ODLH was ridiculously popular. I'm not talking about him being a better boxer than Money or Pac. ODLH was huge. Little girls dreamed about the *******. Old women also.

        Also, Tito's victory against Vargas is unequaled by Cotto. Plus Tito was never defeated by a Mexican.

        But who knows, maybe I'm wrong.
        Tito in his prime was putting hurtings on dudes. I think even when Cotto fought guys he was better and stronger than, he got into some sort of trouble and had to hang on for dear life and get out of it. Once he stepped up the ladder on his competition you could see how his power wasn't as affective as it was prior. Tito was hammering fighters. I know it is fantasy and will never happen but if a prime tito and Cotto went at it at WW. Tito would have put Cotto through the ropes.

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        • #54
          Good for Cotto..

          But he really needs to get this victory.

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          • #55
            Does this mean Tony may have a chance if it goes to the cards? Cus logic tells you even if Tony dominates every single round he isnt winning on the cards in NY

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            • #56
              Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
              I can see why Cotto is upset. He tried to be a sportmans, and accept his defeat but deep down inside he feels Margarito cheated. Everything Cotto and his family are saying on 24-7 is how he and they have always felt.

              With that said, Cotto has to understand the dynamics of being a promoter. Bob, as well as any other promoter invest tons of money on guys like Cotto, Margarito and Pacquiao. Alot of time and effort was put into making them a name that sells. Those are the success stories and they end up making promoters a lot of money. However, people fail to realize the amount of boxers they invest in that don't pan out and the money they lose when it comes to building certian fighters up.

              When everything went down with Margarito, at the end of the day, Arum was his promoter and seeing how Bob was versed in Law (Harvard Law grad) why are people suprised that Arum went out of his way to protect his investment.

              To me that was Arum just doing his job. If Shaw, Oscar, Dibella or anyone else was in Bob's shoes they would do the same thing.
              Very true very well said.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                People are saying Arum did this to Cotto and so forth but Cotto still alowed Arum to be his promoter, make money for and off of him. Cotto didn't have to sign to Top Rank, agree to a Pac fight by defending his title at a catchweight. OR rematch Antonio Margarito. Dude made his own decisions as a grown man so no reason to be salty towards Arum for protecting his investment because Cotto went along with it.
                I believe the 'negotiations' got to the point where Cotto was forced to put the belt on the line, and not just for money. I thought I remembered reading that the sanctioning body would have stripped him of it if he did not agree to the catchweight.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Casual_Fan View Post
                  Arum knows the truth.

                  He just knows that getting Margarito back was good business.

                  He invested 1 million on his defense, and got a 3 million GATE at MSG.

                  Genius. LOW, but genius.
                  What's LOW about paying legal bills for his long time fighter when he's hard up? Besides he has always felt that margarito was innocent, and knows him well and a long time. He'd always back anyone he felt innocent. There's a very good side to Arum apart from his promoter's boloney. All promoters are like that.

                  Don't foget how we accidentally discoverd he had been quietly paying for Chiquanito Hernandez' very expensive Chemo treatments for years, having him brought to the hospital and returned home, and also supporting the Hernandez family. They were broke, he liked them, Hernandez was his fighter. Ask THEM what they think of Arum........

                  He's made multi millionaires of all his top fighters and some others too. Ask Marvin Hagler what he thinks of Arum. He was with Top Rank his whole career, from start to finish, and actually told his wife to stay out of his business or "I'll stop supporting your mother". Don KIng has been whispering in her ear to get him to sign with him.

                  Fortunately he trained as and was a good lawyer, so he can ignore all the illiterate fantastic crap thrown at him. If he ever decided to deal with it, everyone would be heading for the hills.

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                  • #59
                    I can see Cotto signing with golden boy n him fighting alvarez or delahoya comes out of retirement to secure his signature.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by cottofan2 View Post
                      The funny thing is last week Arum said if he beats Margarito, he would guarantee a fight with Chavez for Cotto. Cotto's people must have told him after this fight, the relationship is over. There are a lot more quality fights for Cotto if he goes to Golden Boy. 1) Floyd, 2) Canelo, 3) Khan, 4) Ortiz. Just to name a few. I don't think Cotto respects Arum at all. It also doesn't matter who Arum wants to win tonight. The cheating allegations (judges are aware) and the massive fan support are in Cotto's favor. Margarito is not winning a decision tonight. I like Cotto by wide decision.
                      That was so "funny" I can't stop laughing. You know, you know so much, that YOU should be Cotto's promoter, or at least, his manager He's do wonders then....

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