My Top 20 fighters Ever

[Congressmanny]

lol, you have pacquiao there because of the barrera and morales fights?

Are you talking to me?

[fceeviper]

That's awesome man, Tono's a beast.

Thanks man, I visit his family in Santa Maria Ca. like once a year he's a pretty funny guy. I remember us joking with him and telling him not to fight Mosey because he just got married and he would be weak because of the honeymoon lol.

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Are you talking to me?

lol, nah, turbotime.

[turbotime]

lol, nah, turbotime.

Multi-weight champion.
4 lineal championships.
Wins over 3K, Barrera, Marquez, Lehdwaba, Morales, Hatton, Cotto, Mosley

What's the problem?

[turbotime]

Thanks man, I visit his family in Santa Maria Ca. like once a year he's a pretty funny guy. I remember us joking with him and telling him not to fight Mosey because he just got married and he would be weak because of the honeymoon lol.

haha, yeah that was bad style match up, he didn't belong at 147.

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Multi-weight champion.
4 lineal championships.
Wins over 3K, Barrera, Marquez, Lehdwaba, Morales, Hatton, Cotto, Mosley

What's the problem?

Just wanted to know why.


I downgrade hatton, cotto, and mosley wins however.

Hatton was made to Pacquiao, like Baldomir was to Floyd.

Cotto, catchweight and was never durable below 147. Getting rocked by much lesser opponents than Pacquiao below 147.

Mosley was old. If he was old and shot for Floyd. He was old and shot for Pacquiao. lol

[turbotime]

Just wanted to know why.


I downgrade hatton, cotto, and mosley wins however.

Hatton was made to Pacquiao, like Baldomir was to Floyd.

Cotto, catchweight and was never durable below 147. Getting rocked by much lesser opponents than Pacquiao below 147.

Mosley was old. If he was old and shot for Floyd. He was old and shot for Pacquiao. lol

Let's try and leave anything Mayweather-related out of this. It does nothing to further the conversation and just invites ridicule from outside posters.

It's also not Pac's fault that he is a better fighter than Hatton, and it's not Pac's fault that he had to beat him in order to become the lineal champ in that division. That's why they fight the fights- and a lot were picking Hatton to win, same with Cotto.

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Let's try and leave anything Mayweather-related out of this. It does nothing to further the conversation and just invites ridicule from outside posters.

It's also not Pac's fault that he is a better fighter than Hatton, and it's not Pac's fault that he had to beat him in order to become the lineal champ in that division. That's why they fight the fights- and a lot were picking Hatton to win, same with Cotto.

Not taking that angle at all.


I gave the example Baldomir because that was about the most one sided affair possible to think of.

Mosley was a common opponent. He was old and shot a year before Pacquiao fought him, yet it's somehow a good win?

Most of Pacquiao's wins above 135 are opponents forced to move down in weight or made to his style.

I can't possibly give full credit for fighting someone completely tailored to your style or opponents required to lower their weight when they already had weight cutting issues.


Hatton, he doesn't get full credit. He gets some credit not full. Sure it's the #1 in the division but so was Baldomir. lol

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Atlas said it best:

Diaz, made to order
Hatton, made to order
Oscar, dead at weight
Clottey, wouldn't fight
Cotto, dead at weight and damage
Margarito, no plaster (and I like Margarito)
Mosley, old and shot


That's his record above 130. I don't like the Diaz fight because Casamayor was the real champion but hey, I didn't diss the fight.

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Atlas said it best:

Diaz, made to order
Hatton, made to order
Oscar, dead at weight
Clottey, wouldn't fight
Cotto, dead at weight and damage
Margarito, no plaster (and I like Margarito)
Mosley, old and shot


That's his record above 130. I don't like the Diaz fight because Casamayor was the real champion but hey, I didn't diss the fight.

Casa was not the real champion. Did you see the Santa Cruz fight? Casa should be ashamed, and so should the RING for giving him the belt after that robbery.