Were Ali's fights against Sonny Liston rigged?

[DiegoFuego]

You see, this is something that I find very amusing. When old fogies like you question my knowledge because of my youth. I have amassed in my 17 years so much boxing knowledge, it would make Emanuel Steward look incompetent. I have a fight collection nearing 1,000 fights, and own just about every boxing documentary ever made. I also have a number of boxing books and other publications. I know a whole lot about boxing. Liston was the aggressor and never stopped coming forward through out the fight, a man afraid would stay on the outside and run away from Ali. Liston lacked heart because he quit in the corner with a "broken shoulder." He lacked the mentality of a champion.

Not only are you full of ****, you're also a ****. Look at your gay pic and your ****sexual ICP image. You are full blown gay, my friend.

[Jarlaxle]

the first fight looked genuine to me. liston knew he couldnt beat ali.
As for the second fight, ive read that liston said that he didnt want to get involved with the whole ali/black panthers deal. This was years after the fight. This may have just been an excuse, but in reality, it doesnt matter if the second fight was rigged, because liston knew he couldnt beat ali, and if liston had fought it straight, he would have lost anyways. In the picture in my avatar, ali is yelling at liston, get up, fool! get up! nobody will believe it! This is why i dont think the fight was fixed, it was just liston being afraid. It was only fixed on listons side, ali had nothing to do with it

Right Ali had nothing to do with it but it still was fixed because Liston took a dive. If Liston did not get in shape and was doing it for a pay check and had no heart for the fight then Liston would have went to his buddies in the mob and made even more telling them it will be an early KO.

[Easy-E]

hahaha true, but im not sure sonny is the brightest bulb in the box

the important thing here is that even though sonny took a dive, had he not, he would have gotten the **** kicked out of him

[grant555]

Ali was the superior fighter then, which was exemplified by his longevity in the heavyweight division. Ali wasn't even at his best when he dominated a talent rich heavyweight division. He was and still is the greatest. No doubt.