Were Ali's fights against Sonny Liston rigged?

[wmute]

I am a big Ali fan, but I just read "the devil and sonny liston" by nick tosches and the author clearly backs up the fix/quit hypotheses for both fights through interviews.

but...

he uses extremely short quotes from those interviews

he clearly dislikes ali

I don't know, go figure the 2nd fight definitely has something wrong going on though

[Boxerdog]

Say what you want of me, I never quit in a fight and never will. How a fighter can be conscious and quit in the ring is beyond me.

HA! HA! HA! HA! You wussy!!



You have never FOUGHT anybody that wasn't wearing a dress and you never will. Do you think people are ****** and just buy your bull ****??
What a pitiful little boy!

[Mr. Ryan]

HA! HA! HA! HA! You wussy!!



You have never FOUGHT anybody that wasn't wearing a dress and you never will. Do you think people are ****** and just buy your bull ****??
What a pitiful little boy!

Well, I was a Diamond Gloves Champ at 16 in NJ. I think you need to stop stalking me and get a life. You really are getting annoying.

[Boxerdog]

And I'm the mayor of Newark!

[Mick Hucknall]

Here Boxerdog go and just take early retirement and **** of to and old peoples home you old ****. You've got some cheek saying asian_sensation talks a lot of bull****.. you invented it ya old ****!!

[Mr. Ryan]

And I'm the mayor of Newark!

Why are you obsessed with me?

[Boxerdog]

GEE...19 posts!
This couldn't be another alias to provide support, could it??

[Mick Hucknall]

Keep telling yourself that Grandad!!

[Mr. Ryan]

GEE...19 posts!
This couldn't be another alias to provide support, could it??

If it was, then Rick would be able to track down the IP address and say it was me. Wouldn't he? Regardless, get a life. You're probably one of them child ******ers who search through forums to find young kids to ******. Get a life idiot.

[Dark Destroyer]

lol Why don't you both just chill, you are both cool oldskool posters. Save this **** for the people who deserve it.