Pac-Floyd is a totally different matchup from Pac-JMM

[BoxingGenius27]

Floyd will never beat Pacquaio without his fake OST. He is too scared too fight Pac without his OST shield.

Why are you saying Pac can't beat Floyd when OST is involved?

[studentofthegam]

i did not create this thread to defend it against fanatics like you so shut the **** up.

You didnt even make a real point.

it's floyd's defense that reduces his opponents output more than his counterpunching. counterpunching is an offense coming from a defensive stance so if throwing counter combinations like jmm does is not better then i don't know what is.

"Oh yeah, you mean the way he ducked and dodged against Mosley?" No. He started peppering Mosley and Shane stopped throwing. Defenser doesnt stop punch output. It decreases landed percentages. Punched in the face decreases punch output.

[studentofthegam]

Floyd will never beat Pacquaio without his fake OST. He is too scared too fight Pac without his OST shield.

does that mean.

[SplitSecond]

how did marquez get combo's off on floyd?