Mayweather vs Pacquiao might be closer than you think

[J-Smooth]

wrong...baldomir is your predictable type of pressure fighter where pac is not...once pac throws , he always goes for the kill....pac misses a lot but unfornately for floyd , there are other combinations followin every punch....so he might miss a lot but he'd connect unless you get out of his way....hwo is floyd going to connect if he spends most of his time getting away?...lol..unless he works on that workrate , he aint bettin pac even by tryin to outbox him...

Lmao at this ******* trying to talk about boxing

[thatnickuh]

If Floyd felt a fight with Pac would be as easy as his fanboys claim it would be, he would have fought him by now instead of claiming Pac is extrodinary after being an ordinary fighter. Not to mention, have him OSDT'ed to ensure his success is natural instead of being fueled by PED's. Floyd is no fool. He knows Pac will pose problems for him.

See your whole gimmick is that you're a fanboy. Even your attempts of discussing the fight objectively are see-thru simply because you talk as if Pacquiao is somehow the favorite. With you it's all about your illogical perceptions of what Mayweather must do. You don't acknowledge the clear disadvantages that Pacauiao has and that's where you must start if you're going to objectively analyze the potential matchup. There's a reason that Mayweather would be a clear favorite my man. You shouldn't ignore or dismiss those reasons just because you ant Pacquiao to win. That makes you nothing more than a cheerleader.

It's clear that the fight didn't happen early last year because Team Pacquiao walked away to fight Clottey just as it's clear now that they're attempting to duck Mayweather to try and fight Marquez for a 4th time. So please stop perpetuating that myth about Mayweather being the reason for the fight not being made.

[Reloaded]

The problem is we probably wont get the fight , Manny Duckman is openly DUCKING Floyd , its Sooooooooooooooo OBVIOUS ,,

Manny dont need to wait untill Xmas and his birthday to make a decision , it should have already been made , or thats what he been telling his fans for the last year , now its at the end of the line and both are coming of wins , the stage is set ,,,,and low and behold WTF , Manny wants to think about whether he wants Floyd or not ,,,, get ***en real , its a DUCK plain and simple , he wants Floyd to sign another fight thats the only reason Manny is stalling with saying WE WANT FLOYD NEXT lets move to the table !!!

Dont give me the bull**** about he just fought , because he dont need to do anything , he can go on his holidays , just state publicly we will negotiate a fight with Floyd , its Floyd I want next ,,, its not hard to say !!

[Someone88]

What people have to realize is, Floyd is nowhere as offensive as JMM. JMM took many chances in order to land the shots he landed on Pac. Is Floyd willing to take that chance? JMM sacrificed defense in order to get his offense off. Floyd will NEVER make that sacrifice! Yes Floyd is the best counter puncher in the game, but he will need to actually fight! He's not going to get away with throwing 1 right hand lead at a time. Pac will win rounds on workrate alone. Throwing 15-20punches a round is not gonna cut it. When JMM countered Pac, he countered him with 2-3-4 punch combos. When is the last time we've seen Floyd do that.

Now this is not to say that Floyd wont have success against Pac. All I'm saying is, dont use Pac's performance against JMM as a measuring stick against Floyd. Floyd and JMM although both very technical, are also very different!

Great post

[Someone88]

By the way some of you guys talk the fight shouldn't even happen what's the point you can just predict fights and that's it. Sure give your prediction but man it's gonna be a lot more competitive than a lot of you think I'm sure of that

[thatnickuh]

By the way some of you guys talk the fight shouldn't even happen what's the point you can just predict fights and that's it. Sure give your prediction but man it's gonna be a lot more competitive than a lot of you think I'm sure of that

What's the difference in people saying that Mayweather will defeat Pacquiao relatively easy and people like you acting as if it's a toss-up fight? They're both predictions, 1 is based on common sense and rational thinking while the other is based on heart and emotion alone.

[slick23]

What people have to realize is, Floyd is nowhere as offensive as JMM. JMM took many chances in order to land the shots he landed on Pac. Is Floyd willing to take that chance? JMM sacrificed defense in order to get his offense off. Floyd will NEVER make that sacrifice! Yes Floyd is the best counter puncher in the game, but he will need to actually fight! He's not going to get away with throwing 1 right hand lead at a time. Pac will win rounds on workrate alone. Throwing 15-20punches a round is not gonna cut it. When JMM countered Pac, he countered him with 2-3-4 punch combos. When is the last time we've seen Floyd do that.

Now this is not to say that Floyd wont have success against Pac. All I'm saying is, dont use Pac's performance against JMM as a measuring stick against Floyd. Floyd and JMM although both very technical, are also very different!

Couldn't agree more! I personally think Floyd has slowed a bit. Its true that Mayweather is a counter puncher, but not when he is going backwards, he usually make you miss in the center of the ring then catches you. I think Floyd because of his size advantage has no choice but to take the lead in this fight, which can lead to some very dangerous situations but I think he would be fine. People talk about how Marquez would step back and counter Pac all night, therefore it would be easy for Mayweather to do the same. Marquez throws more combos than Floyd backing up period. When Floyd gets the pressure put on him he'll attempt to catch you usually with a straight right hand, but more often than not following that he goes into defensive mode, and does not comeback with a a hook off the right hand. Marquez like you said made the commitment to do so. I still think Floyd can catch him in the center of the ring and use his jab to control the distance of the fight, but anytime he is moving backwards its going to create problems for him. When your that much bigger than your opponent and you have speed to boot, you plant your lead foot in the center of the ring and make him commit to breaking through to get to you. Floyd has been doing that quite a bit lately and he needs to do it against Pac. All of the sudden after last week people think Floyd's style resembles Sugar Ray Leonard. Hilarious really.

[Someone88]

What's the difference in people saying that Mayweather will defeat Pacquiao relatively easy and people like you acting as if it's a toss-up fight? They're both predictions, 1 is based on common sense and rational thinking while the other is based on heart and emotion alone.

So you're telling me these predictions of Mayweather stopping Pacquiao are all just rational thinking? That's most likely a heavily biased opinion the people who say Mayweather will win be a clear decision fair enough that's more reasonable also yeh it's quite rational to think Pacquiao would do a lot better than Mosley and Ortiz he could beat Mayweather, either way the fight has gotta happen

[Phil Ivey]

PUGA why are you saying Manny will throw non stop and that he's a pressure fighter? He'll throw non stop if your target practice and you come forward and you're flat footed which makes it 100x easier, like Margarito. Manny's not like Castillo, not even close - Manny can't cut off the ring and he doesn't have an inside game.

And no Manny will not throw non stop against Mayweather, what planet are you on? Did you not see him against Marquez? Marquez who has decent foot work and top counter punching ability made Pac very wary, Manny threw 600~ against Marquez and landed at a 30% rate. I'll be curious to see how much he lands against Mayweather, he won't throw 600 punches and he'll landed less.

[thatnickuh]

So you're telling me these predictions of Mayweather stopping Pacquiao are all just rational thinking? That's most likely a heavily biased opinion the people who say Mayweather will win be a clear decision fair enough that's more reasonable also yeh it's quite rational to think Pacquiao would do a lot better than Mosley and Ortiz he could beat Mayweather, either way the fight has gotta happen

Depends on the rationale. I could see scenarios where the fight ends in a TKO or KO for Mayweather. It's hard to predict how a fighter will hold up mentally when he has no answers to the problem in front of him. I don't take issue with people predicting that Pacquiao will give Mayweather huge problems or even defeat Mayweather, I take issue with the rationale. I've yet to see someone give an intelligent argument to support those opinions. The post that you quoted saying "good post" is a perfect example of what I'm alking about. It wasn't a good post, it was illogical fanboy rhetoric.