If Margarito did use illegal wraps in the first fight,

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Without having an argument about it, allow me to point out that something which was classed as illegal had already been done, and they "caught" the perpetrator(s). Anyway, on another point, a sentence depends, in my opinion, on the gravity of the offense, on the instructions given by the judge. Also, the subjective feelings of the judge, or/and the jury.

If the case had, miraculously, gone to trial, the judge might point out that the defendants were there, not because they attempted to commit a crime, but because they had already committed one, which was "dangerously loading" a boxing wrap, with the intention to commit bodily harm on an innocent opponent. Something like that I would say. Anyway, if found guilty, they would surely get either gaol or a suspended sentence with much community service. I think gaol.

But the FBI (I believe) lab proved there was nothing there other than a used, otherwise harmless boxing pad. This was certainly backed up by the succeeding events, and I've made no speculative comments at all.

It mainly showed a Commission who had been guilty of making a huge fuss over a minor infraction, and embarrassment that a Commission member had signed off on the wrapping already, so took a face saving decision to permanently ban an uninfluential trainer-but only in the US- and give only a "slap on the wrist" to the guy who was supposed to be in charge because he was so obviously innocent.

Allow me my opinions. And let this be the finish of this foolish and degrading dispute.

Please also let me add this:

Mosley on the FNFs telecast the following week gave his side of the story, and he said once ****m saw irregularity he took the pad from Margarito and brought it to Mosleys dressing room and gave it to Mosleys Dr.

Which would mean anything could have been tampered with at that point, they allowed them to take possession of the wrap.

Now notice Merchant said Margarito had to have his hands wrapped three times, the 1st time they found the pad but the other two times.. come on this was nothing more than a used pad, and nothing more than ****m over tellin what happend.

I mean thats like walking up to a murder scene and taking the bloody knife home then bringing it back

[BoxingGenius27]

Without having an argument about it, allow me to point out that something which was classed as illegal had already been done, and they "caught" the perpetrator(s). Anyway, on another point, a sentence depends, in my opinion, on the gravity of the offense, on the instructions given by the judge. Also, the subjective feelings of the judge, or/and the jury.

If the case had, miraculously, gone to trial, the judge might point out that the defendants were there, not because they attempted to commit a crime, but because they had already committed one, which was "dangerously loading" a boxing wrap, with the intention to commit bodily harm on an innocent opponent. Something like that I would say. Anyway, if found guilty, they would surely get either gaol or a suspended sentence with much community service. I think gaol.

But the FBI (I believe) lab proved there was nothing there other than a used, otherwise harmless boxing pad. This was certainly backed up by the succeeding events, and I've made no speculative comments at all.

It mainly showed a Commission who had been guilty of making a huge fuss over a minor infraction, and embarrassment that a Commission member had signed off on the wrapping already, so took a face saving decision to permanently ban an uninfluential trainer-but only in the US- and give only a "slap on the wrist" to the guy who was supposed to be in charge because he was so obviously innocent.

Allow me my opinions. And let this be the finish of this foolish and degrading dispute.

Since you said these are your "opinions", I'll let it go peacefully. Although, I don't think too highly of them, I'll let it go and leave it at that.

PS: The degrading didn't start until you had the "genius" jokes. But hey, it's cool man.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

What are you talking about?

According to Edgard, plaster turns to powder when hit by a boxer.

Which one is it fellas. Is plaster breaking bones or turning into powder?

You guys sound like Team Margarito; just can't get it together.

You actually may have first hand experience in this cus I am sure your mom pissed you off at one point in which you hit the wall in your house.
which it does crack and will leave a powder like substance.
However if its in a wrap its going to break some ribs no? it did with Collins....

plaster does crack it does flake and your point is what?

[BoxingGenius27]

You actually may have first hand experience in this cus I am sure your mom pissed you off at one point in which you hit the wall in your house.
which it does crack and will leave a powder like substance.
However if its in a wrap its going to break some ribs no? it did with Collins....

plaster does crack it does flake and your point is what?

For someone to attack other posters for not reading, you sure are guilty of your own claims. Let me answer it for you.

No Dr. Zooka.

Read Edgard's article regarding plaster. You will find that supposedly when Cleveland Williams did some kind of experiment, he had plaster on his gloves and crumbled the plaster when he struck the bag.

I'm not talking about flakes as you were trying to downplay the claim. I'm talking about desinergrating the plaster like some alien spacegun from a scene in Star Trek.

If this is true, then plaster of paris should be a non factor in the Resto case, right?

[edgarg]

Did it ever cross your mind that the reason Margarito didn't fight for a year is because he just got smashed by Mosley? It takes time to recover from beatings, which is perfectly normal. I think the commission suspends fighters that win their bout for 6 months, let alone someone that took a beating. You making Margarito out to be this saint honoring the commission is comical.

It had nothing to do with Margarito being honorable. If he was being honorable, then he wouldn't be fighting at all. But hey, why should he even have to be honorable, when according to you, he did nothing wrong in the first place. I mean hey, plaster turns into powder when you punch right?

Yeah, you're right, let's quit it.

Just a quick comment.Margarito is an old school fighter in the true sense of the word, very much reminds me in a way, of my last favourite fighter Gaspar Ortega. He took a lot of punishment from Mosley, true, but not enough to keep him from fighting for about a little less I think. than a year and a half. He takes unbelievable punshment in nearly every fight, even the ones he wins, but is one of those old time guys who can take it and come back time after time. He's one of the very few.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

For someone to attack other posters for not reading, you sure are guilty of your own claims. Let me answer it for you.

No Dr. Zooka.

Read Edgard's article regarding plaster. You will find that supposedly when Cleveland Williams did some kind of experiment, he had plaster on his gloves and crumbled the plaster when he struck the bag.

I'm not talking about flakes as you were trying to downplay the claim. I'm talking about desinergrating the plaster like some alien spacegun from a scene in Star Trek.

If this is true, then plaster of paris should be a non factor in the Resto case, right?

Dude, I think you are downplaying what he is saying in a sarcastic fourth grade kind of way...

[BoxingGenius27]

Dude, I think you are downplaying what he is saying in a sarcastic fourth grade kind of way...

No, don't try to cop out now.

Read the article yourself Dr. Zooka. It's on page 8 or something.

You guys have conflicting stories and it's simple as that. Team Margarito all over again.

I have one guy saying Plaster breaks bones (Dr. Zooka) and I have another claiming plaster is harmless and would break/crumble during hard punches (Edgard).

Face the facts. Now which one is it Dr. Zooka, is plaster breaking bones or breaking itself?

I'll wait.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

No, don't try to cop out now.

Read the article yourself Dr. Zooka. It's on page 8 or something.

You guys have conflicting stories and it's simple as that. Team Margarito all over again.

I have one guy saying Plaster breaks bones (Dr. Zooka) and I have another claiming plaster is harmless and would break/crumble during hard punches (Edgard).

Face the facts. Now which one is it Dr. Zooka, is plaster breaking bones or breaking itself?

I'll wait.

I can not speak on that because I was not there when that "experiment" was conducted what I can say is Collins had busted ribs from the resto fight.

[BoxingGenius27]

I can not speak on that because I was not there when that "experiment" was conducted what I can say is Collins had busted ribs from the resto fight.

You weren't there for Margarito either, but I don't see that stopping you. See, this is a perfect example of you seeing what you want and commenting on what you want.

Don't run away now. Which one is it. Is plaster breaking bones or breaking itself?

Edgar, is plaster breaking bones or breaking itself.

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