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  • #11
    Denver is excellent!

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    • #12
      Boicot!

      We fans should boicot this mess. Arum joined Margarito against Cotto. Scumback Arum, die from once!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Tomasio View Post
        If it's moved to Denver it's gonna suck for Scumbag Arum cause he's gonna loose a lot of $$$$$$$$.. & if that happens, his GREEDY ass deserves it cause all this could have been avoided if Arum had done things right from the get go!!! & it's really gonna suck for Cotto cause the altitude(over 5,000ft above sea level) is gonna affect him in a negative way..Cotto has been training at sea level & in a high action & intense fight & then add the high altitude(which he hasn't adapted to) as fight goes on, if in the 1st fight he claims the problem was that he ran out of gas, then in this one he's really gonna be in a world of s h i t!!Ironically the ONLY one that could benefit from all this is Margarito cause he's already training at high altitude in Mexico, so he's already adapted to this atmosphere..So if he's denied a license in N.Y, it would actually work to his favor..I don't understand why Arum hasn't tried to move the fight to a place where neither fighter will have an advantage like Florida(Miami or Orlando) or to some other city in Texas like Houston or San Antonio..
        That is correct, the altitude will hurt Cotto BIG time, more so than Margarito. Margarito has been training at 10K feet altitude, so it will be a huge advantage there.

        Denver is 5300+ feet above sea level vs NYC at ~50 feet. That means that in theory there is 100% of the oxygen available vs ~83% at 5300+ feet.

        Ref:
        http://www.altitude.org/air_pressure.php

        If I remember back to my Army days, based on military physical training guidance it takes ~30 days to acclamatize to 3000+ feet elevation.

        It could be very dangerous for Cotto!

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        • #14
          The high altitude in Denver should definetly be considered. I'm sure they havent figured that out yet. I won't be surprised if the fight gets rejected for that reason alone.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Tomasio View Post
            If it's moved to Denver it's gonna suck for Scumbag Arum cause he's gonna loose a lot of $$$$$$$$.. & if that happens, his GREEDY ass deserves it cause all this could have been avoided if Arum had done things right from the get go!!! & it's really gonna suck for Cotto cause the altitude(over 5,000ft above sea level) is gonna affect him in a negative way..Cotto has been training at sea level & in a high action & intense fight & then add the high altitude(which he hasn't adapted to) as fight goes on, if in the 1st fight he claims the problem was that he ran out of gas, then in this one he's really gonna be in a world of s h i t!!Ironically the ONLY one that could benefit from all this is Margarito cause he's already training at high altitude in Mexico, so he's already adapted to this atmosphere..So if he's denied a license in N.Y, it would actually work to his favor..I don't understand why Arum hasn't tried to move the fight to a place where neither fighter will have an advantage like Florida(Miami or Orlando) or to some other city in Texas like Houston or San Antonio..
            Not to mention there's hardly ANY Puerto Ricans in this part of the country, mostly Mexicans, so Margarito will definitely have the advantage in the arena. But, wouldn't Cotto have the advatange in New York??? Denver has a ton of Latino's, but it'd be hard to rpomote a fight at the Pepsi can with a week or so to do it, but at least over one-third of Denver metro is Latino, that should help. It's better than f**king Missippi where there's not a Latino in sight.

            Apparently Cotto didn't want to fight in texas, because he felt the judges would be bias in favor of Antonio, and probably because most all Latino's in TX are Mexican, but it's the same thing in CO. As far as altitude, yeah, Margarito will have a huge advantage, Denver is 5,280 feet above sea level, Mile Hight City. Even Phoenix, where is a place they suggested as well, is between 2,000-3,000 feet above sea level.

            This just all has gotten shi**y for Cotto. No Puerto Rican crowd, crazy high elevation and a dry climate. This just spells disaster for him.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Da Boxer View Post
              That is correct, the altitude will hurt Cotto BIG time, more so than Margarito. Margarito has been training at 10K feet altitude, so it will be a huge advantage there.

              Denver is 5300+ feet above sea level vs NYC at ~50 feet. That means that in theory there is 100% of the oxygen available vs ~83% at 5300+ feet.

              Ref:
              http://www.altitude.org/air_pressure.php

              If I remember back to my Army days, based on military physical training guidance it takes ~30 days to acclamatize to 3000+ feet elevation.

              It could be very dangerous for Cotto!
              Ture that. I live in Denver, and the climate (dry as hell) mixed with the altitude here, is no joke. There's a reason that Olypmic Athlete's train in Colorado Springs (6,000+ feet above sea level) at the World Arena.

              Vegas is already dry and like 2,000 feet above sea level. Denver, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, Reno, C-Springs, are all 4,500+ feet above and dry as hell. There's a reason boxing has never hardly happened in this part of the country (except for Vegas onviously), except for when Ron Lyle and Stevie Johnston were around.

              5,280 feet, dry desert like climate, no Puerto Ricans in the crowd (over 1/3 of Denver metro is Latino, but mostly Mexican), this just spells disaster for Cotto.

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              • #17
                Get your shyt together, Bob Arum.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                  Well it won't affect PPV, nobody is buying the fight just because it's in NY

                  Onlything affected will be tickets and gate
                  bingo and if they can drum up enough interest the people I have talked to about the other venues say that they could get it to 3/4 capacity in no time so gate won't take that heavy of a loss.

                  they did do a lot of local promotion in NY so that would be eaten but overall moving the venue won't hurt Top Rank as bad as people think

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
                    bingo and if they can drum up enough interest the people I have talked to about the other venues say that they could get it to 3/4 capacity in no time so gate won't take that heavy of a loss.

                    they did do a lot of local promotion in NY so that would be eaten but overall moving the venue won't hurt Top Rank as bad as people think
                    I am sure it won't sell in Denver like it did in New York because, well basically everything promoted in New York sells well. The Puerto Ricans were going to come out and support Cotto.

                    But, the last big fight in Denver, Johnston-Castillo way back in 00', sold pretty well. Johnston was from Denver and Castillo was Mexican.

                    Denver Metro (3+ million) is over one-third Latino, mostly Mexican, and will come out and support Margarito. It'll be the same thing if the fight happened in Phoenix, where Top Rank is also going to visit today as well. Phoenix has tons of Mexicans, just like Denver, and it could sell at least 60-70% of the arena, even in a with a week or so to do it. The PPV won't be hurt, because no one was buying the fight because it was in MSG.

                    However, the location hurts Cotto and spells disaster for him. Even Phoenix is 2,000-3,000 feet in elevation, dry climate, no Puerto Ricans in the crowd for him, tons of Mexican fans for Margarito. In Denver it's 5,280 feet in elevation, dry climate, no Puerto Ricans in the crowd, tons of Mexican fans for Margarito. Even in Dallas, while it's not high in elevation and isn't a dry climate, the only fans will be for Margarito, just like in Denver and Phoenix. This all spells disaster for Cotto.

                    Even though I'm pretty amped up about the fight possibly being in my city, I don't see why they couldn't have found a neutral site. Chicago (a lot of Puerto Rican fans but some Mexican fans, low elevation, normal climate)???

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Da Boxer View Post
                      That is correct, the altitude will hurt Cotto BIG time, more so than Margarito. Margarito has been training at 10K feet altitude, so it will be a huge advantage there.

                      Denver is 5300+ feet above sea level vs NYC at ~50 feet. That means that in theory there is 100% of the oxygen available vs ~83% at 5300+ feet.

                      Ref:
                      http://www.altitude.org/air_pressure.php

                      If I remember back to my Army days, based on military physical training guidance it takes ~30 days to acclamatize to 3000+ feet elevation.

                      It could be very dangerous for Cotto!
                      Good research & good info & U'r avatar is OFF THE HOOK!!(Big tradition in My family here on the Island)

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