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  • SWEETSCIENCE100
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    #41
    pay attention to defense against the jab. look what happens when the jab is taking away


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    • elgu
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      #42
      Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
      AS you can see the style that Duran beat Lenard with Mayweather is better at it. In close fighting, watch the punishment Lenard takes then look at the punishment Mayweather avoids while staying close. Play them both at the same time! watch closely

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      Floyd might beat him at a distance but he certainly isn't defeating Duran on the inside. It wouldn't look like the fight with Chavez, it would look like JLC I.

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      • SWEETSCIENCE100
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        #43
        Originally posted by elgu
        Floyd might beat him at a distance but he certainly isn't defeating Duran on the inside. It wouldn't look like the fight with Chavez, it would look like JLC I.
        all I can tell you is this, when your not hItting the target, two things happen. You loose confidence, and you get tired. Loosing one means defeat for most fighters. Put those two together and you double stack your odds against you.

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        • Capaedia
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          #44
          Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
          I watched ray robinson get out boxed too. His flaw was that he could be lured into a slug match, doing this made him easy to be hit and hurt. It also showed his focus was not as strong as Mayweathers. You will never see Mayweather lured into a slug match, he is to smart and to focus on his game plan! The only chance I give these guys with power is a punchers chance. I know you all disagree but just look at every guy mentioned , evaluate thier lost and how they lost, who they lost too and then compare them to Mayweather. No COMP!!!!
          Which fight is this?

          I'm prepared to bet it wasn't at 147, where Robinson truly earned his place on the P4P lists.

          Did you know he went 40-0 before losing to an ATG middleweight while still at welterweight, it was another 92 fights before he lost again, past his prime, to a middleweight again.

          He would occasionally get into a slugging match, because he was so versatile that he was likely to win it any which way. The record dosen't lie, he only lost by TKO/KO once, and the concensus is that the heat played a major part in that. Nevermind that it was at LHW against a great fighter.

          If a past prime De La Hoya can lose a split decision against Mayweather, is it so ridiculous to say that a fighter much better than him, could at the very least reverse it and SD Floyd?

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          • SWEETSCIENCE100
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            #45
            Originally posted by Capaedia
            Which fight is this?

            I'm prepared to bet it wasn't at 147, where Robinson truly earned his place on the P4P lists.

            Did you know he went 40-0 before losing to an ATG middleweight while still at welterweight, it was another 92 fights before he lost again, past his prime, to a middleweight again.

            He would occasionally get into a slugging match, because he was so versatile that he was likely to win it any which way. The record dosen't lie, he only lost by TKO/KO once, and the concensus is that the heat played a major part in that. Nevermind that it was at LHW against a great fighter.

            If a past prime De La Hoya can lose a split decision against Mayweather, is it so ridiculous to say that a fighter much better than him, could at the very least reverse it and SD Floyd?

            ALL I CAN SAY IS YES I KNOW ALL ABOUT SRR. i'VE SEEN EVERY RECORDED FIGHT OF HIS. I ALSO KNOW THAT HE LOST MORE THAN ONCE TO FIGHTERS NOT EVEN IN MAYWEATHERS LEAGUE. I DO THINK THAT THESE GUYS WON BECAUSE SRR WAS BURNT OUT AND ON THE DECLINE. NEVER THE LESS HE STILL LOST. HE HAD ALOT OF FLAWS. NO ONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT BOXING CAN SAY THAT MAYWEATHER HAS ALOT OF FLAWS. SRR IS THE ONLY FIGHTER I PUT SIDE BY SIDE WITH MAYWEATHER. YOU DONT SEE IT NOW BUT WAIT ABOUT 30 YEARS AND LOOK BACK. THEN YOU SEE IT CLEAR

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            • Capaedia
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              #46
              Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
              ALL I CAN SAY IS YES I KNOW ALL ABOUT SRR. i'VE SEEN EVERY RECORDED FIGHT OF HIS. I ALSO KNOW THAT HE LOST MORE THAN ONCE TO FIGHTERS NOT EVEN IN MAYWEATHERS LEAGUE. I DO THINK THAT THESE GUYS WON BECAUSE SRR WAS BURNT OUT AND ON THE DECLINE. NEVER THE LESS HE STILL LOST. HE HAD ALOT OF FLAWS. NO ONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT BOXING CAN SAY THAT MAYWEATHER HAS ALOT OF FLAWS. SRR IS THE ONLY FIGHTER I PUT SIDE BY SIDE WITH MAYWEATHER. YOU DONT SEE IT NOW BUT WAIT ABOUT 30 YEARS AND LOOK BACK. THEN YOU SEE IT CLEAR
              No, I agree that Mayweather is about as close to flawless as humanly possible. But he does have them, but that's not what I think is going to cost him against the likes of the fighters I've named. Their strengths are going to be the deciding factor, not his weaknesses. There's a reason I only named a few fighters, all very much among the elite.

              H2H I think it's pretty obvious Floyd does exceptionally well in rankings.

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              • joesaiditstrue
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                #47
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                It's one thing to win a fight that could have gone either way, then immediately rematch that guy that gave you the tough fight, and clearly beat him. It's another thing to closely but clearly win a fight but get robbed, then avoid the fight for years and fight that guy at a weight class he doesn't belong in, while he's near 40 years old...and lose even more clear than the last time! Wow.
                Kev just dropped an H-Bomb on ******* Nation

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                • edgarg
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
                  I watched ray robinson get out boxed too. His flaw was that he could be lured into a slug match, doing this made him easy to be hit and hurt. It also showed his focus was not as strong as Mayweathers. You will never see Mayweather lured into a slug match, he is to smart and to focus on his game plan! The only chance I give these guys with power is a punchers chance. I know you all disagree but just look at every guy mentioned , evaluate thier lost and how they lost, who they lost too and then compare them to Mayweather. No COMP!!!!
                  You're talking nonsense, making an icon of a prrsent day fighter. Robinson Never got drawn into anything he didn't wnat to. He was equally at home either boxing or fighting, a guy diesn'r reach 132-1 in his era without kowing exactly what he's doing. And the 1 was a loss to eventual middles champ. Jake laMotta 17 lbs heavier in Robinson's 3rd year. And he beat him 5 more times. And you don't even mention Roberto Duran or Henry Armstrong.

                  Benny Leonard would have made a fool of him, before taking him apart. Sid Terris and Lew Tendler would have half killed him, Jack Britton would have beaten him and Jimmy McLarnin would have KO'd him. Not to mention about another 50 fighters between then and now would have cornered him, not let him out, and shown him how to really fight.

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                  • edgarg
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
                    Srl had little defense for those who could match his speed, he also was a combonation pucher would loved to throw 20 punch combows at a time, thus leaves him open for counters.

                    Duran was a quitter, if he could not catch you he would quit!

                    Dela hoya lost all his big fights, on to the next!

                    Tommy Hearns was to impatient. He was so aggressive that he would loose the waiting game against Mayweather. Id say around round 5 Tommy would stop throwing that jab after missing and eating those counter right hands by Mayweather. As soon as Tommy looses faith in his jab the fight would take a dramatic turn in whose in control. Just ask Oscar why he stopped throwing his jab. A fighter who has to have his jab working in order to be effective is setting his self up for failure. You must have other weapons to rely on. If a JAB is all you have, then as soon as someone takes your jab a way your like a fish out of water, "your F#$k"
                    When Leonard was throwing his multiple combinatiobs I NEVER saw anything coming back except from Marvin Hagler.

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                    • SWEETSCIENCE100
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      When Leonard was throwing his multiple combinatiobs I NEVER saw anything coming back except from Marvin Hagler.
                      Thats because he wasnt fighting Floyd MONEY mAYWEATHER!!!


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