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  • RubenSonny
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    #51
    Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
    AS you can see the style that Duran beat Lenard with Mayweather is better at it. In close fighting, watch the punishment Lenard takes then look at the punishment Mayweather avoids while staying close. Play them both at the same time! watch closely

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    Mayweather is not better than Duran on the inside, I think his skills in that area may be a little better than Leonard but probably not as effective since he isn't as fast or powerful.

    Originally posted by edgarg
    Benny Leonard would have made a fool of him, before taking him apart. Sid Terris and Lew Tendler would have half killed him, Jack Britton would have beaten him and Jimmy McLarnin would have KO'd him. Not to mention about another 50 fighters between then and now would have cornered him, not let him out, and shown him how to really fight.
    I think Benny Leonard would have beaten him but it wouldn't have been easy. No way Mclarnin KOs him and Sid Terris wouldn't have stood a chance. Your talking **** as usual, just **** off.

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      #52
      Originally posted by RubenSonny
      I think Benny Leonard would have beaten him but it wouldn't have been easy. No way Mclarnin KOs him and Sid Terris wouldn't have stood a chance. Your talking **** as usual, just **** off.
      Perfect post.

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      • SWEETSCIENCE100
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        #53
        Originally posted by edgarg
        You're talking nonsense, making an icon of a prrsent day fighter. Robinson Never got drawn into anything he didn't wnat to. He was equally at home either boxing or fighting, a guy diesn'r reach 132-1 in his era without kowing exactly what he's doing. And the 1 was a loss to eventual middles champ. Jake laMotta 17 lbs heavier in Robinson's 3rd year. And he beat him 5 more times. And you don't even mention Roberto Duran or Henry Armstrong.

        Benny Leonard would have made a fool of him, before taking him apart. Sid Terris and Lew Tendler would have half killed him, Jack Britton would have beaten him and Jimmy McLarnin would have KO'd him. Not to mention about another 50 fighters between then and now would have cornered him, not let him out, and shown him how to really fight.
        Every fighter you named was defeated by averge joes, some were even knocked out and badly beaten. Defense is what sets Mayweather apart from all the rest. Ray Robinson , jack johnson, Ali, Ray lenard all were great at boxing, but Mayweather has perfected the art of boxing. He has mastered the sweet science on all levels.

        To answer to your statement about SRR never being drawn into something he didnt want to be drawn into. Thats Bull****!!. He did all he could to box Carmen Basilio and Jake lamotto on the outside. He did not have the defensive skills to block all those incoming shots which is what wore him down and cause the loss. Mayweather would have found a way to neatrualize those guys attack like he always has. Just look at this fight. Do you think Mayweather would have fought the same way against Carmen Basilio ?

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        Mayweather is by far the smarter fighter!

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        • edgarg
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          #54
          Originally posted by edgarg
          When Leonard was throwing his multiple combinatiobs I NEVER saw anything coming back except from Marvin Hagler.
          Again you're talking nonsense, he quit only against Leonard, no one else, and that was because he was as sick as a dog during the fight. It's all well recorded, He was partying the night before and was vomiting like a geyser, and the fight was still even until he couldn't stand Leonard's taunting and running in the 8th rd.

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            #55
            Originally posted by edgarg
            You're talking nonsense, making an icon of a prrsent day fighter. Robinson Never got drawn into anything he didn't wnat to. He was equally at home either boxing or fighting, a guy diesn'r reach 132-1 in his era without kowing exactly what he's doing. And the 1 was a loss to eventual middles champ. Jake laMotta 17 lbs heavier in Robinson's 3rd year. And he beat him 5 more times. And you don't even mention Roberto Duran or Henry Armstrong.

            Benny Leonard would have made a fool of him, before taking him apart. Sid Terris and Lew Tendler would have half killed him, Jack Britton would have beaten him and Jimmy McLarnin would have KO'd him. Not to mention about another 50 fighters between then and now would have cornered him, not let him out, and shown him how to really fight.
            This is ban worthy trolling at its finest.


            lmfao.


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            • SWEETSCIENCE100
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              #56
              Originally posted by edgarg
              Again you're talking nonsense, he quit only against Leonard, no one else, and that was because he was as sick as a dog during the fight. It's all well recorded, He was partying the night before and was vomiting like a geyser, and the fight was still even until he couldn't stand Leonard's taunting and running in the 8th rd.
              so your saying those counter shots and foot work had nothing to do with Duran getting frustrated and quitting. Just look at the fight again my friend.

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              In the first fight Lenard went to war and tried to ko him in a brawling manner. He BOXED HIM IN THE REMATCH AND IT WAS EASY WORK!!
              Last edited by SWEETSCIENCE100; 11-19-2011, 11:22 AM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by elgu
                Leonard outworks him, he might get tagged a lot in the process but he had the size speed and power required to get the job done.

                Duran had excellent speed, good jab, good lead right hand and the feints and body work required to get the job done. He was past his best days when he quit.

                Hearns reach, jab and power would be too much. He would knock Floyd out with the jab to the body followed by the right hand kind of how he did Duran, which was the same way Mosley hurt Floyd.
                To say that Duran was past his best days when he quit is one of the biggest understatements of the century. He had his last fight at age 50. nd if he hadn't had an accident he mighthave fought on. He liked fighting. He was already past his best when he both beat and lost to Leonard.

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                • SWEETSCIENCE100
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                  #58
                  [QUOTE=edgarg;11446892]To say that Duran was past his best days when he quit is one of the biggest understatements of the century. He had his last fight at age 50. nd if he hadn't had an accident he mighthave fought on. He liked fighting. He was already past his best when he both beat and lost to Leonard.[/QUOTE

                  BULL****!! He was in his prime! Lenard just out boxed him and he couldnt handle the frustration of not being able to hit his opponant. He got upset that Lenard would not stand still for him to hit him. Its very common with boxers vs brawlers. Usually they start low blowing and head butting out of frustration. Do your home work before typing Bull****!

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                  • MJ223
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                    #59
                    TS I respect your passion right.... But have you ever considered that the fighters you are talking about are ATG's who for the most part were more active??? Check Floyds resume and give me one man that could compete with the Fab Five (Hagler,Hearns,Leonard,Duran,Benitez) When your done doing that tell me how do you compare SRR vs Lamotta and Duran vs Leonard <---- (ATG's and Lamotta was a MW mind u) against Mayweather vs Hatton and May vs Chavez hahah.... Hatton and Chavez while both good fighters will never be considered ATG's.... Your reaching

                    Disclaimer: I'm a Mayweather fan and he certainly competes in any era but to say any man from any generation beats any and all men is naive at best and ****ing ridiculous at worst
                    Last edited by MJ223; 11-19-2011, 12:02 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Shogunofharlem1
                      I dont think the fighters between 135-147 now beat him but dudes like Hearns, prime DLH, Leonard, etc would be able to.
                      totally disagree. the person i see giving him a really hard time b/c of range is Hearns. hed have a hard fight with SRL that would go 12 rounds but i think outbox SRL and damn sure prime DLH
                      Last edited by Pacquiao'd; 11-19-2011, 12:45 PM.

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