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Originally posted by WESS View Post.....and most everyone is hoping JMM prices himself out to force Pac to move on like in the past. It would make a huge statement if JMM prices himself out, yet Pac STILL takes the fight.
I guess you didn't read what Mayweather actually said. Floyd reported that he would love to return in February if Possible. Meaning if Pac ducks him, he just might fight in Feb.
If Pac wants the fight, Floyd will fight in May which is why he already set a date and venue. Come on you guys, give it up already the truth is out.
Like I have said for over 2 years, Bob is the one to make or break this fight, when he is ready he WILL make the fight. You guys are giving Floyd too much credit if you think he could stop Bob from doing his job. lol It's just silly. Bob knows the deal, and he's never been ready to feed his cash cow to a fighter like Mayweather. At least you guys now understand why.
Even before Marquez came out with his demands, I though Marquez deserves $10 m for a 4th matchp.
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Pacquiaos been saying testings not an issue for a year at least and the whole time Floyd's been saying, "TAKE THE TEST!" but manny obviously didn't negotiate with Floyd from Saturday til today so what's changed? Did they secretly negotiate since Saturday and manny just now said testing not an issue? No, he's been saying it forever so how come Floyd aint yellin "TAKE THE TEST!" now? Answer that for me. Testing was never an issue. Floyd lie to you and the rest of the Floyd extremist. The only thing now is Floyd wasn't confident in his skills before but after witnessing Saturday he really believes it now which is why he ain't preaching the "TAKE THE TEST
No new negotiations for months so how come testings not am issue now when they haven't miraculously agreed to any new negotiations from sat til now or months and months til now?
You dudes still haven't answered me. Keep dodging the question. It proves many has agreed for a long time and Floyd kept presching take the test but now that manny looks like **** he's quick to hop on to fight him. Floyd been holding up the fight for a long time. If manny wants to fight Marquez he's just doing what floyds been doing for years. The whole ost was a farce cause he didn't want to fight manny and get hurt. Why else did Floyd want to fight at 154 with 10 OZ GLOVES? Welterweight regulation glove sizes are 8 oz but Floyd wanted to fight at 154 so he can use 10 ouncers. HMM WHY IS THAT? Cause he didn't want to get hit. That's honestly a ***** move. Oh it's in the fighthype timeline too. Gtfo. I'm ****tin this thread down. LolLast edited by bayareamike; 11-16-2011, 12:56 PM.
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Originally posted by bayareamike View Postpacquiaos been saying testings not an issue for a year at least and the whole time floyd's been saying, "take the test!" but manny obviously didn't negotiate with floyd from saturday til today so what's changed? Did they secretly negotiate since saturday and manny just now said testing not an issue? No, he's been saying it forever so how come floyd aint yellin "take the test!" now? Answer that for me. Testing was never an issue. Floyd lie to you and the rest of the floyd extremist. The only thing now is floyd wasn't confident in his skills before but after witnessing saturday he really believes it now which is why he ain't preaching the "take the test
no new negotiations for months so how come testings not am issue now when they haven't miraculously agreed to any new negotiations from sat til now or months and months til now?
You dudes still haven't answered me. Keep dodging the question. It proves many has agreed for a long time and floyd kept presching take the test but now that manny looks like **** he's quick to hop on to fight him. Floyd been holding up the fight for a long time. If manny wants to fight marquez he's just doing what floyds been doing for years. The whole ost was a farce cause he didn't want to fight manny and get hurt. Why else did floyd want to fight at 154 with 10 oz gloves? Welterweight regulation glove sizes are 8 oz but floyd wanted to fight at 154 so he can use 10 ouncers. Hmm why is that? Cause he didn't want to get hit. That's honestly a ***** move. Oh it's in the fighthype timeline too. Gtfo. I'm ****tin this thread down. Lol
but if u dont see that its really arum then maybe im wrong for even replying to u. After the clottey fight going forward pacs next opponent was already signed and put in the media right after the fights he had, so how can any negotiations go on? Same thing happening now, insteadof saying they want to perssue negotiations with floyd arum gets in the ring and brings up pac marquez 4, and if that doesnt happen it will be against tim bradley... Hell roach just said he wants pac to have a tune up then goes back n says they want the mayweather fight....how can u just sit and ignore all these things? Yes floyd is an ******* and annoying, yes he contradicts himself and does ****** things but u cant tell me u dont notice anything arum is doing? And u honestly think floyd is scared of pac man even after this last fight? How do u see a floyd pac fight playing out?
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Originally posted by bayareamike View Postpacquiaos been saying testings not an issue for a year at least and the whole time floyd's been saying, "take the test!" but manny obviously didn't negotiate with floyd from saturday til today so what's changed? Did they secretly negotiate since saturday and manny just now said testing not an issue? No, he's been saying it forever so how come floyd aint yellin "take the test!" now? Answer that for me. Testing was never an issue. Floyd lie to you and the rest of the floyd extremist. The only thing now is floyd wasn't confident in his skills before but after witnessing saturday he really believes it now which is why he ain't preaching the "take the test
no new negotiations for months so how come testings not am issue now when they haven't miraculously agreed to any new negotiations from sat til now or months and months til now?
You dudes still haven't answered me. Keep dodging the question. It proves many has agreed for a long time and floyd kept presching take the test but now that manny looks like **** he's quick to hop on to fight him. Floyd been holding up the fight for a long time. If manny wants to fight marquez he's just doing what floyds been doing for years. The whole ost was a farce cause he didn't want to fight manny and get hurt. Why else did floyd want to fight at 154 with 10 oz gloves? Welterweight regulation glove sizes are 8 oz but floyd wanted to fight at 154 so he can use 10 ouncers. Hmm why is that? Cause he didn't want to get hit. That's honestly a ***** move. Oh it's in the fighthype timeline too. Gtfo. I'm ****tin this thread down. Lol
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Originally posted by jtiger777 View Postfloyd wanted to fight pac at 154???????? So u beleive anything u see on the internet huh? U need a third eye ball man it helps u read and see through the bull****
And yes arums a scumbag and that USDA wada thing was ****** and when bob is done promoting it'll be good for boxing I agree I don't like the old man but my trance hasn't changed from the beginning. It's not that I believe anything you see on the net but that's also like saying you believing anything you hear.
And that USDA wada thing.. Wasn't that before the Marquez negotiations? Floyd was saying "take the test" up til a week or two ago. But testing is now not an issue. Either way, **** em both. For me and I think a lot of Boxing fans, the fight lost it's hype. Maybe not casual fans but for all of us on this site it's bull**** we had to wait this long to get this close for the fight not happening yet.
I dont think Floyd's scared of pacquiao or anyone for that matter, I don't think any boxer is scared of any man in the ring or they wouldn't be in this profession but I think fighters are worried about losing.
And I use to think it was 5050 fight. After Mosley 60/40 Floyd. Now **** I think it's 70/30 Floyd if not more lol. I'm a fan of Floyd because what he does in the ring is straight up skill. With pacquiao I like his heart in the ring and that he comes to fight. I appreciate both the same though. I just think the fight should've happened a long time ago as I'm sure you do too.
And I bought floyds fight, and not pacquiaos. Although I was in Reno for the pac fight. Saw it at Atlantis cause the peppermill(where I was staying) didn't have it.Last edited by bayareamike; 11-16-2011, 02:39 PM.
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Originally posted by bayareamike View PostFloyd dodged the fight by bringing up ost. Pacquiaos been saying testings not an issue for a year at least and the whole time Floyd's been saying, "TAKE THE TEST!" but manny obviously didn't negotiate with Floyd from Saturday til today so what's changed? Did they secretly negotiate since Saturday and manny just now said testing not an issue? No, he's been saying it forever so how come Floyd aint yellin "TAKE THE TEST!" now? Answer that for me. Testing was never an issue. Floyd lie to you and the rest of the Floyd extremist. The only thing now is Floyd wasn't confident in his skills before but after witnessing Saturday he really believes it now which is why he ain't preaching the "TAKE THE TEST!"
The other dude doesn't want to answerso maybe you can cause I'm interested in people's point of views.
So be it.
Only a very unbalanced illogical (and probably immature) fanboy would think that the OSDT request was a way for Mayweather to duck that fight.
Dude, smarten up, if Mayweather wanted to duck that fight he would never have agreed to 50/50, because, Manny could have simply taken the test, like any other clean athlete would have.
Genius, why didnt Pac simply call Mayweathers "[ I]bluff[/I] ", take the harmless blood test, collect his career-best payday, and then punch Mayweather in the face?..... just like Mosley did, just like Ortiz did, and just like any other clean athlete would?
Team Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to justify why Manny would not submit to random blood tests, which one of Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe?
Only an unbalanced illogical (and probably immature) fanboy would question the guy who asked, and yet ignore the guy who refused.
Come on man, BLOOD TESTS ARE COMPLETELY HARMLESS !!
I insist that you tell me which one of Pacquiao's ridiculous excuse worked for you, so that we can see what your real agenda is, because nobody using even the simplest form of logic could share your viewpoint.
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