Comments Thread For: Hopkins' Trainer: Marquez, a Better Fighter Than Pacquiao

[KillerB]

It has been obvious for at least the last 2 years dude, and I have been saying it for a large part of those two years

The only reason you have been saying it is because you're in love with Mayweather. I think Margarito would k.o Marquez by the way Marquez doesnt have the foot work to get away from him.

[fceeviper]

I have always said that Marquez is a far better technical fighter than Pac.

It's just that he is a career-featherweight.

Signed.

[BillyBoxing]

What about the 2/3 rds of the profesional boxers that thought Marquez won? Are they all boxing afro comunity haters too? Even Pacman's own damn stablemate, 2 actually thought Marquez won, neither is black. Just like a sucker to pull the race card when it doesn't apply.

It does apply and you know it.

I don't care about the third fight. I was talking about the whole trilogy.

And yes, Manny Pac has more haters than fans in the afro american community.

[nycsmooth]

what trainer...another BS artist changes opinion after the fight, you phony...

[letsgobrady]

The only reason you have been saying it is because you're in love with Mayweather. I think Margarito would k.o Marquez by the way Marquez doesnt have the foot work to get away from him.

marquez is a counter puncher and margarito has to be the easiest fighter to telegraph and margarito is not looked at as a big puncher but a volume puncher

[BillyBoxing]

No, I completely disagree, you are speaking literally, Naz was speaking P4P (e.g. Wlad Klitschko could beat Nonito Donaire, but he is not even on his level P4P). If all things were equal, which is what P4P signifies, then Marquez beats all of Pacquiao's opponents, most easily, and then he beats Pac.

Jeez dude, a 38yo lightweight just leaped TWO DIVISIONS and beat the supposed P4P #1..... there is no question of who is the better fighter, JMM answered that question on Saturday.

Klitschko vs Donaire??WTF

C'mon, don't act like Manny is a giant compared to Marquez, they are about the same size, Marquez has a longer reach and Manny never was, isn't a WW, he weighed 143 and probably can make 140 easy.

[Reloaded]

The only reason you have been saying it is because you're in love with Mayweather. I think Margarito would k.o Marquez by the way Marquez doesnt have the foot work to get away from him.

Ignorance is no excuse , you think the CWs and match making at times when they were clearly done has nothing to do with Pac winning , they just did it for the exercise lol , Manny is created on hype and made to order opponents and you people totally ignore the fact he handicaps his biggest name wins , what is a win when you must drain them to do it , its called a scam .

[Reloaded]

Klitschko vs Donaire??WTF

C'mon, don't act like Manny is a giant compared to Marquez, they are about the same size, Marquez has a longer reach and Manny never was, isn't a WW, he weighed 143 and probably can make 140 easy.

My money is on Donaire at the CW of 160 ,,,, you dont see the point the guy is making lol , have you forgotten Cotto ODH and Margo they his biggest wins right .

[GRUSTLER]

Manny is overrated and hasn't been exposed. If Manny beat Floyd you would have people saying the same thing about Mayweather. People are so quick to call a fighter overrated its ridiculous.

Manny ain't beating Floyd because Arum ain't letting Pac fight him. Couldn't beat Floyd anyway. Floyd shut Marquez down for 12 rds at 144. Guaranteed that same JMM would have gave Pac the toughest fight of his life. Doesn't matter when or where Pac fights JMM. He will always have problems with him and as we witnessed last Saturday. JMM has improved since they last fought and Pac hasn't. It was better for Pac to have lost then win like that because his image has been hurt bad. Now people lost a lil excitement from seeing Floyd fight Manny because they know Pac would get annihilated. should have taken the fight after the Cotto fight but Arum wanted to make a fighter that could be bigger than Floyd, by using Floyd's name to promote his fighter without actually fighting him and it back fired. Arum immediately said he wants a 4th Marquez fight after robbing him in the 3rd one? How low are they planning on sinking? Imagine JMM beating Manny again and the same thing happens? Pac ain't going to be worth $h!t in the sport. My advice would be go for the Floyd fight and cash in. Image took a drastic hit last weekend and one more fight like that it's lights out for your career Pac. JMM is going to be the end of you.

[GRUSTLER]

They only had a Plan A, when has Pac ever had a plan B ?

Judging by his Mayweather outing, Marquez was old, faded, and he could not hang at welter..... so Team Pacquiao disadvantaged him on the scales and then tried to blow him out of the ring physically, with Manny's speed/power advantage.

It serves them right, they got what they deserve.

I kept telling Pac fans that Pac ain't Floyd and just because Mayweather made Marquez look like that didn't mean Manny would do the same thing but the problem is that people were holding Pac up on this pedestal and hating Mayweather that they forgot about the actual sport of boxing. Floyd has made many good boxers look like average fighters. Arum and Roach kept trying to out do Mayweather but they never tried to be better than him by stepping up their comp and actually helping Pac progress as a fighter. Arum took everybody for a ride. Manny is an exciting fighter and was dominate against guys who were already beat up physically and mentally. JMM fought champions and winners, stepping his game up. Pac was/is at WW and didn't even try to fight anyone who was on top of their game. He chose Cotto at a catchweight rather than fight Mosley after the Margarito KO. Top Rank wasn't looking to fight the best becaue if they were then the Cotto fight would have been at 147 or Mosley would have happened in 09 when he was begging for it.

This reminds me of Lopez/Salido a lil minus the KO and rightful winner. Pac fans are scrambling to make excuses but people with unbias common sense know that Floyd would mop Pac after what they witnessed. Floyd was a favorite to win from 2 years ago imagine now? Bob Arum and Freddie Roach hurt Pac's image. Roach is supposed to be this great trainer but what has he done with Pac for the last 7 years that he could not get JMM out of there? Pac knocked him down 3 times in the first fight. Once in the rematch and none this time. It's obvious who really got better and his name ain't Manny Pacquiao. Team Pac thought Juan Manuel Marquez was done and that's why they picked him at the same catchweight Floyd did but they didn't realized or get through their skulls that Pac ain't Floyd. Case closed.