Pacquiao/Marquez Post Fight Discussion- Please re-vote in the poll. .

[lacson]

I completely agree. Marquez backpedalled for 12 rounds. You want to beat the champ you need to show more than that, don't expect a close fight will give you the nod, it don't work that way. You'd think after 2 close fights he would have learned his lesson. He did say he was going for the knockout, but showed up exactly the same as the previous fights. Manny could have played the counterpuncher also like in the first round, but that would have been an ugly, boring fight. Someone needed to take the aggressor role. Mayweather v. Marquez, Marquez took the aggressor role and he paid for it. Two counter punchers waiting for the other to make a move is an ugly match.

Marquez' fights are always close no matter who he fights, it's just the style he uses, which is to react to his opponents moves. And he's used to getting the nod on most of these fights. Guess what, that don't work when your against the champ, you need to show more. Getting outworked and outpunched isn't going to do it in a close fight.

The expectations were so high that the results took everyone by surprise. The fight was so close that if it was a draw, it was fine, if Marquez got the nod, it was fine, if Pacquiao got the nod, it was fine. That's how close it was, again it's the style of the fight.

[radioraheem]

No Diff. than May/Castillo I. I think Marquez was sooooo imppresive that people wanted to see him win. I respect all these guys opinions they are pro's, but to scream robbery (some of them) makes them look foolish. This was no robbery it was a tought win for Pac. The fact that they are boxers does not give them a better eye to judge a fight. Like I said before Phil Jackson was at best an average basketball player yet he coached the greatest player of all time Michael Jordan. Would Michael be a better coach than Phil because he was superior as a player? NO. Same thing just because they are pros does not mean they are better judgers. Like I said I respect their opinions but at the end of the day they are humans and to call a close fight like that a robbery makes them look very foolish Pac over Marquez 115 113...From a Marquez fan.

The difference between what you are saying is that the judges were not professional boxers before. Whereas, Phil Jackson was a professional basketball player. Michael Jordan, also another professional basketball player. So the logic is a professional basketball team is best coached by a former professional basketball player.

These judges though were not former nor present professional boxers. So just off the strength of the logic you used incorrectly, the judges shouldn't have been qualified to judge that fight. And former professional boxers should have done it. Legitimate former fighters. So the many tweets by former and current boxers where the majority say the fight was a robbery -- is a very telling statement about the real outcome of that fight.

Former professional experts, at any occupation, can and will see things differently than those who were nothing but mere observers. They will see and catch things that many outside that occupation will fail at seeing.

[loui_ludwig]

Whether you have Pac winning or Marquez winning, the result is set in stone already. Some of the members life in here is getting affected by the decision.

[JDezi4]

You read way to much into things. Answers are in bold + italic.

Ur responses either miss the point, or r made "credible" only by the always trust-worthy majority opinion...

The first theory is made credible by the above mentioned "facial expression/body language" that I SAW.... And its definitely not made UNcredible by the fact that he and his trainers predicted a KO.... As if that couldn't possibly be APART of the whole set up

And the second theory... "most people think"... There u go again... Which one of the two fighters got the win? "most people" can think what they want, but what they think means absolutely ****... For all we know, Pac KNEW he was gonna win, and that's why he didn't try... Or... For example... PAC DID WIN... He certainly did from what I saw

[ajohnz]

Skip Bayless post on boxingscene?

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[Doctor_Tenma]

Just re-watched round 11 in which two judges gave it to Pac.

Marquez clearly won that round. Even the bias commentators had Marquez winning.

I gave the 11th round to Pacquiao, gonna rewatch it again though. I did however give Marquez rounds 9,10 and 12.

[FJRod]

The difference between what you are saying is that the judges were not professional boxers before. Whereas, Phil Jackson was a professional basketball player. Michael Jordan, also another professional basketball player. So the logic is a professional basketball team is best coached by a former professional basketball player.

These judges though were not former nor present professional boxers. So just off the strength of the logic you used incorrectly, the judges shouldn't have been qualified to judge that fight. And former professional boxers should have done it. Legitimate former fighters. So the many tweets by former and current boxers where the majority say the fight was a robbery -- is a very telling statement about the real outcome of that fight.

Former professional experts, at any occupation, can and will see things differently than those who were nothing but mere observers. They will see and catch things that many outside that occupation will fail at seeing.

A Judge in a court room is not a criminal but yet he sentences them(criminals) I see your point but at the end of the day. A judge makes a career out of judging a fighter makes one out of fighting I respect their opinions but they are not experts at judging bottom line. Las Vegas odd makers are experts yet I highly doubt they ever laced up gloves, tight up laces on a pair of Nikes and hit the court, threw on a helmet for a football game...Should I give you more examples?

[orlandoernandez]

It all came down to Marquez's counterpunching ability. Every time Manny landed a shot, Marquez landed one immediately after. This caused Manny to be more cautious and not throw his normal volume of punches. I'm glad the fight went the way it did, because I think Floyd is going to take the bait. His confidence level has skyrocketed since last nights bout.

[JDezi4]

It all came down to Marquez's counterpunching ability. Every time Manny landed a shot, Marquez landed one immediately after. This caused Manny to be more cautious and not throw his normal volume of punches. I'm glad the fight went the way it did, because I think Floyd is going to take the bait. His confidence level has skyrocketed since last nights bout.

Apparently that's ridiculous

[FJRod]

It's not that I don't respect their opinion, but to say it was a robbery it's absurd. Get real people need to understand the diff. between A CLOSE FIGHT and A ROBBERY. If you want to down play my point then you are also an idiot.