Marquez "I Cant Fight Without a Hyperbaric Chamber."Grandpas-"Technology Dont Matter"

[Tiozzo]

I just think its funny how a top 10 p4p boxer talks about how he couldn't perform without modern technology. We see his workouts utilizing modern theories on fitness. We have all this evidence that modern athletes are far superior. However, old people still want to believe their part time fighting heroes could compete today. Its hilarious. I would have knocked Jack Johnson out, probably in 1 round.

I've never seen Marciano, Johnson, Ezzard Charles, Joe Walcott, Tunney or any of those guys who were competing in the 15 rounds or more eras punch themselves out.

But I do know one who belongs to this so-called superior era for training called Wlad K. who punched himself out - twice. Once inside 4 rounds (LOL).

[Tiozzo]

45 round fight. Watch rounds 37-40 and their workrate, combinations, etc and try to tell me that Marquez's chamber gets him into better shape than these men in 1910. Most guys today in rounds 8 or 9 start looking like they do in the 39th.

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Good post.

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[Lucky Jim]

How are they better when the things I've pointed out are true? Do we need to bring in the slobs they have passing off as heavyweight contenders these days?

Can you refute anything in the article I provided?

Ridiculous non-argument. If Matthew Greer walks out of the pub and into a boxing ring with a beer gut to fight physical specimen Denis Boytsov, and takes advantage of none of available scientific methods of training and nutrition, how does that prove your case?

The problem, especially in America, is laziness and lack of dedication and of fighters not taking advantage of the modern techniques.

Monte Barrett was supposed to get wiped out by David Tua, but changed and modernized his training and nutrition methods to upset Tua twice. At 40 years old, he turned back the clock and was better than ever. Ask him about sports evolution.

[bose]

Didn't Larry Holmes and George Foreman both make a comback only to beat younger heavyweight prospects...

A punch can slow anyone down, true story.

[Die Antwoord]

Didn't Larry Holmes and George Foreman both make a comback only to beat younger heavyweight prospects...

A punch can slow anyone down, true story.

And get brutally stopped or beat by the Duke and Axel Shulz....

Also how many of these guys who didnt get punched out weighed 250 lbs? They would have been KO'ed by one shot. The guy who just won the NYC marathon paced a faster mile time than the world record at the time of that 11 minute video. I thought it was 45 rounds? Wait isnt this back when rounds ended on a knock down?

As for more fights? Jack Dempsey, a man who I would have KO'ed personally in one or two punches and then taken his woman for my own, fought 8 real times past the age of 24. Vitali hadn't even started to focus on boxing at 24...8 times past 24. From july 1919 to September 1926...so over 7years, while champion, he fought 5 times...and people call Floyd inactive.

Also, who are you going to believe, Marquez...a well conditioned professional boxer or Jab a well fattened man who lives in a box? I mean he says that modern training techniques dont matter...I mean look at all he's accomplished while scorning modern technology. I bet that Kenyan who just won the NYC marathon could box 500 rounds no problem.

Also I think its funny that a 40 year old Vitali Klitschko who weighs 250 lbs threw more punches in any 3 rounds against Adamek than in that entire 11 minute video.

When I was 13 years old I was breaking the early 20th century olympic records in swimming with a drag suit on in practice. What happened? Faster water today? Those guys in the video look like 2 morons who had no clue how to throw a powerful shot and wanted to dance around wrestling rather than boxing, i would have beat both and then taken their women, impregnated them, and then forced them to raise my child and not give a dime in child support.

[Die Antwoord]

Didn't Larry Holmes and George Foreman both make a comback only to beat younger heavyweight prospects...

A punch can slow anyone down, true story.

Larry Holmes in the early 90's, "These guys today are much better than the guys from the 70's. They hit much harder."

[Check_hooks]

Everyone already knows this. It would be like saying you could put Vitali in against any HW in history and Vital would win. But its not exactly fair unless you let the old fighter (e.x. Ali) train using today's techniques and diet. If you plucked him out of the past without giving him a chance to train like a modern fighter than he gets KTFO.

However it is possible that a modern fighter would gas out if they did same day weigh in and fight until someone gets ktfo. The only fighter I could see today that would do good in old school rules is Pacquaio. I've never seen him tired even after throwing thousands of punches and he doesn't put on that much weight after the weigh in.

[Sin City]

I just think its funny how a top 10 p4p boxer talks about how he couldn't perform without modern technology. We see his workouts utilizing modern theories on fitness. We have all this evidence that modern athletes are far superior. However, old people still want to believe their part time fighting heroes could compete today. Its hilarious. I would have knocked Jack Johnson out, probably in 1 round.

If Jack Johnson was around today.. he'd have the same technology as you do.
If you were around back then, you wouldn't have that technology and neither would he..

I'd bet everything your ass is laying there on the canvas twitching against Jack Johnson.

[BigStereotype]

The evidence doesn't support you. Guys used to fight 15 rounds once a month. So who's in better shape? I think that the good fighters are good fighters in any era. The fluctuation comes in the level of competition.

[-Kev-]

You're kidding yourself if you think today's fighters have superior conditioning than old school fighters. I mean I wasn't around in those times to see those fights live. But collecting the facts and putting the pieces together...15 round fights, most fighters had an average of over 100 fights in their career, less padded gloves, 8 weight classes, one belt per weight class, same-day weigh-ins, little to no catchweights, let's stop it right there and compare it to now..12 rounds, some fighters look like they're dying in the closing rounds, 30-60 pro fights is the average span of a fighter, a lot of them become shot after about 30 pro fights, 17 weight classes, 4 major belts per weight class, plus more garbage meaningless belts like Interim, Silver, Super, Regular, AKA everybody can be a champion.