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  • BattlingNelson
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    #211
    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    You should try to keep up. If you did, you would know that with the sole exception of Kessler, who doesn't want to fight him, all the "live bodies" as you call them have been tied up in the Super 6, from which Bute was excluded; but that Bute will be fighting the Super 6 winner next year. In the meantime, Johnson gave Froch a very close fight very recently, and Froch is the #2 ranked Super Middleweight, so winning every round against the opponent Froch struggled against so recently is the most emphatic statement Bute could possibly have made, against the most credible opponent by far who was available to him to fight.
    You should try to keep up. If you did you would know that Bute gave Kessler a ridiculously low offer which is the same as saying that he don't want none.

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #212
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      Bute did what he had to, very good win for him. Still, this has to be a missed opportunity for him. Glen was looking every bit of 42, he was ripe to be stopped. Bute never took that chance, and he should have.
      I agree,but something looked off with this fight..It was not contested on a high level imo..It felt like I was watching a sparring session..

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        #213
        Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
        I agree,but something looked off with this fight..It was not contested on a high level imo..It felt like I was watching a sparring session..
        They have sparred, and have a lot of respect for each other. You could see they both knew each other too well going in, Glen was worried too much about Bute and Bute was worried too much about Glen.

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          #214
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          You should try to keep up. If you did you would know that Bute gave Kessler a ridiculously low offer which is the same as saying that he don't want none.
          What exactly was the offer? And I will say that I like Kessler but does anyone believe that he will have a bigger payday with fighting Stieglitz then he would have with Bute? I seriously doubt it, so maybe he just decided to take the easier road to another title by fighting the Russian.

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            #215
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            They have sparred, and have a lot of respect for each other. You could see they both knew each other too well going in, Glen was worried too much about Bute and Bute was worried too much about Glen.
            Totally agree..One of Johnson's worst fights imo...

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              #216
              Originally posted by Ravens Fan
              What exactly was the offer? And I will say that I like Kessler but does anyone believe that he will have a bigger payday with fighting Stieglitz then he would have with Bute? I seriously doubt it, so maybe he just decided to take the easier road to another title by fighting the Russian.

              Don't argue with Bat, he thinks that a first offer in a negociation process shows your hand.

              So with Bute's first offer (although he doesn't even know exactly what it was), Bat knows Bute didn't want the fight, and uses that justification for Kessler not making any kind of offer. That's how logical the guy is about Bute and Kessler.

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                #217
                Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                What exactly was the offer? And I will say that I like Kessler but does anyone believe that he will have a bigger payday with fighting Stieglitz then he would have with Bute? I seriously doubt it, so maybe he just decided to take the easier road to another title by fighting the Russian.
                According to Bob Arum it was a laughable 750K.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  According to Bob Arum it was a laughable 750K.
                  Bute is promoted by Interbox and Kessler by Sauerland. So, I have to ask, what would Bob Arum and Top Rank have to do with it?

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    According to Bob Arum it was a laughable 750K.
                    And according to Jean Bedard from Interbox, Kessler refuse 3 Million.

                    So who is right?
                    Only thing we know is that Kessler ran away, that we know.

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                      Bute is promoted by Interbox and Kessler by Sauerland. So, I have to ask, what would Bob Arum and Top Rank have to do with it?
                      Good question. Arum revealed the number when Pavlik refused to fight Bute for some 1M+ and at the same time claiming that Kessler was offered 3M.

                      I myself has spoken to Sauerland about it, and without revealing numbers, he said that Interbox's offer was the same as saying that they where not interested at this point in time.

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