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Who Will Be the GOAT Vitali Klitschko's Next Victim?
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as soon as wilder steps in the ring with one of the top two or three eastern euro heavies on the same stage as him (in regards to development and experience in professionals), he will get his jaw cracked. . . those guys come from a MUCH more disciplined and advanced school of boxing than wilder. . .
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Originally posted by BostonGuy View PostWho's out there for them? Dimitrenko and Povetkin are ducking, Helenius and Fury have stated that they need more time to develop and for the most part they've beaten most of other pack.
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Originally posted by uglypug View Postas soon as wilder steps in the ring with one of the top two or three eastern euro heavies on the same stage as him (in regards to development and experience in professionals), he will get his jaw cracked. . . those guys come from a MUCH more disciplined and advanced school of boxing than wilder. . .
So tell me, if this "advanced school of boxing" you claim Eastern Euro "fighters" attend is so supreme & glorious, why did the greatest boxer Eastern Europe ever produced need an AMERICAN trainer in order to become world champ? Why couldn't this "advanced school of boxing" you speak of save Wlad from getting KO'd by journeymen and fringe contenders damn there every other year before he enlisted the services of his American trainer?
Why did Ibragimov need an American trainer to help him beat a shot Holyfield and C-level Shannon Briggs? Why didn't he obtain the services of one of the instructors from Eastern Europe's "advanced school of boxing"?
Your insinuations are laughable. Eastern European boxing, along with their boxing history is a joke. They've contributed practically nothing to the sport.
BTW, Wilder is trained by Mark Breland, i would love for you to name JUST 5 Eastern European boxers or trainers that have better credentials in the sport than Breland.
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Originally posted by Die Antwoord View PostAlfredo Evangelista-14-1-1 coming off a loss got a shot at a title from Ali
Leon Spinks-6-0-1 got a shot at a title from Ali
Chuck Wepner- known for bleeding.30-10 part time boxer full time police officer got a title shot from Ali
Richard Dunn- 33-9 started career weighing in the 180s got a title shot at ali
Jimmy Young-17-4-2 got a title shot at Ali
Jean Pierre Coopman-24-3 got a title shot at Ali
Back to the history section troll
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Originally posted by Die Antwoord View PostAlfredo Evangelista-14-1-1 coming off a loss got a shot at a title from Ali
Leon Spinks-6-0-1 got a shot at a title from Ali
Chuck Wepner- known for bleeding.30-10 part time boxer full time police officer got a title shot from Ali
Richard Dunn- 33-9 started career weighing in the 180s got a title shot at ali
Jimmy Young-17-4-2 got a title shot at Ali
Jean Pierre Coopman-24-3 got a title shot at Ali
Back to the history section troll
Lmao!! Do we really need to compare Ali's resume to either Klit? I don't blame the Klits, it's not their fault the division sucks. But besides the soft touches Ali took on he cleaned out the division, did it all over the world, fought in the greatest heavyweight era and fought 4 guys who are in or could be argued as top 10 all time great heavyweights going 7-3 against them. Between them only Vit Klit has fought an ATG and had his face ripped apart and was nearly blinded by a guy at his heaviest weight in the last fight of his career. So lets do the math.....Ali fought and beat several ATG's and HOFers. The Klits fight fat, no talent guys wouldn't have been club fighters in Ali's era. That equation comes out to Ali arguably being the greatest heavy ever who fought in the greatest heavyweight era....And the Klits being the undeniable best fighters in the absolute worst heavyweight era ever.
Back to school for you, Corky.
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Originally posted by Die Antwoord View PostAlfredo Evangelista-14-1-1 coming off a loss got a shot at a title from Ali
Leon Spinks-6-0-1 got a shot at a title from Ali
Chuck Wepner- known for bleeding.30-10 part time boxer full time police officer got a title shot from Ali
Richard Dunn- 33-9 started career weighing in the 180s got a title shot at ali
Jimmy Young-17-4-2 got a title shot at Ali
Jean Pierre Coopman-24-3 got a title shot at Ali
Back to the history section troll
JAB got
Ali's era was a ridiculously overrated weak era. It was just a bunch of overrated American bums beating up eachother.
The American HW champs from the past weren't even real world champs, they were all frauds because they never competed against the superior Soviets/Eastern Europeans in the pros.
All of the best American heavyweights have been destroyed by the Klitschkos and other Eastern Europeans.
The same thing is happening in many other weight classes too.
Soviets/Eastern Europeans weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990s because of the cold war/iron curtain.
Now Soviets/Eastern Europeans are allowed to turn pro and we're already taking over boxing and are dominating the higher weight classes.
We're also dominating the amatuers. Most of those great amatuers will become great pros.
This is just the beginning of the Eastern European domination.
Eastern European fighters are superior.
Vitali and Wlad are the two most dominant fighters of all time. The numbers and stats don't lie.
Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.
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Ali was a ridiculously overrated punching bag. He lost more rounds in one fight than the Klitschkos have in their entire careers. He took way too much punishment. That's why he's a ******ed vegetable.
Ali never fought anyone like the Klitschkos.
That rope a dope bullshit won't work against a Klitschko.
Feather fisted Ali can't stop a Klitschko.
Ali can't outsmart a Klitschko.
Ali can't outbox a Klitschko.
Ali can't outpoint a Klitschko.
Both Klitschkos are nightmare matchups for Ali.
Either Klitschko dominates Ali.
Look at this pic, Ali was a weakling compared to the Klitschkos. The Klitschko Brothers are superior athletes and superior fighters.
Last edited by HW CHAMPS; 11-03-2011, 06:14 AM.
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Originally posted by HW CHAMPS View PostAli was a ridiculously overrated punching bag. He lost more rounds in one fight than the Klitschkos have in their entire careers. He took way too much punishment. That's why he's a ******ed vegetable.
Ali never fought anyone like the Klitschkos.
That rope a dope bullshit won't work against a Klitschko.
Feather fisted Ali can't stop a Klitschko.
Ali can't outsmart a Klitschko.
Ali can't outbox a Klitschko.
Ali can't outpoint a Klitschko.
Both Klitschkos are nightmare matchups for Ali.
Either Klitschko dominates Ali.
Look at this pic, Ali was a weakling compared to the Klitschkos. The Klitschko Brothers are superior athletes and superior fighters.
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