Was Manny SEVERELY drained when he fought Marquez?

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  • chavez jr
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    #41
    Theres an excuse for every Manny lose or close fight,didn't you know that?

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    • Artician
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      #42
      Originally posted by lefthook2daliva
      Manny (acting on Roach's advice I would imagine) always uses his drawing power as a negotiating hammer to make sure that the opposing fighter is at some kind of weight disadvantage. Is at a weight that is just slightly (or in DLH's case, a little more than slightly lol) uncomfortable. At this level of competition any advantage is huge.
      Are you implying that the fight with Oscar would have been a fair fight at 154?

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      • trevaris
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        #43
        Originally posted by Artician
        Are you implying that the fight with Oscar would have been a fair fight at 154?
        mayweather fought him at 154 so what you mean by fair? oscar I think came in at 165

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        • lefthook2daliva
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          #44
          Originally posted by U.ncleSam
          Idiot. Oscar was the one who suggested 147. Manny is not yet a superstar pre Oscar fight.
          I'll grant the one exception. Oscar did it to himself, but since Oscar I'm right and you know it.

          Also,you shouldn't call names. It just exposes you as the sycophant infant that you are.

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          • SyrianKid
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            #45
            Mayweather moved up in weight to 154 to fight Oscar De La Hoya at his NATURAL weight

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            • Artician
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              #46
              Originally posted by trevaris
              mayweather fought him at 154 so what you mean by fair? oscar I think came in at 165
              yep. and Mayweather fought thrice in WW division before Oscar, Pac had 1 fight at lightweight. Do the math.

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              • lefthook2daliva
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                #47
                Originally posted by Artician
                Are you implying that the fight with Oscar would have been a fair fight at 154?
                Though it looked a mismatch to begin with, yes, as it turns out I think it would have been a much more competitive fight at 154. But, as I said, Oscar did it to himself. I'm guessing that Roach calculated that DLH would be severely weight drained at 147 and thus Oscar's desire to win Mexican fans by beating Pac played right into his hands.

                It's all speculation, but then that's what we're here for, isn't it?

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                • Artician
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by lefthook2daliva
                  Though it looked a mismatch to begin with, yes, as it turns out I think it would have been a much more competitive fight at 154. But, as I said, Oscar did it to himself. I'm guessing that Roach calculated that DLH would be severely weight drained at 147 and thus Oscar's desire to win Mexican fans by beating Pac played right into his hands.

                  It's all speculation, but then that's what we're here for, isn't it?
                  Though I somewhat agree, we can only say this after the fight. Only the *******s were giving Manny a chance to win that fight. @147 every knowledgeable boxing fans and experts alike thought it was a mismatch.

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                  • trevaris
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Artician
                    yep. and Mayweather fought thrice in WW division before Oscar, Pac had 1 fight at lightweight. Do the math.
                    ok marquez had one fight at welter lmao and look like crap vs mayweather but now pacroid is fighting him again at welter why not 135 or 140 which manny said he can make easy lmao

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SyrianKid
                      Mayweather moved up in weight to 154 to fight Oscar De La Hoya at his NATURAL weight
                      LOL!! Which Oscar regretted. He then realizes that he should have fought Floyd at 147 where Oscar would be faster. Check your history.

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