Was Manny SEVERELY drained when he fought Marquez?

[U.ncleSam]

1.De La Hoya wasnt drained

2.The fight against Cotto wasnt a catchweight fight

3.The fight against Margarito wasnt a catchweight fight

2.Shane Mosley wasnt 39 years old and he didnt lose to Mayweather before





THE MOON DOESNT EXIST .

so now you are discrediing all of Pacquuio win. You forgot hattton was ruined.

[COACH WEBB]

Delahoya wasn't drained. He was too slow. If delahoya was drained manny would have easily ko or kd Oscar. Oscar didn't even get kd.

Wow.



I give up on my own thread.

I'm gone.

[madsweeney]

1. It didn't matter. Pac by TKO
2. It didn't matter. Pac by TKO
3. Margarito's advantage. The catchweight inclusion was for a belt.
4. Only a year older after fighting Mayweather. **** fight but still watched it.

The moon is not present during the day.

Give him a break, ****er can't even count to 4.

[Hougigo]

I love Manny, I'm a huge manny fan. I'm wearing a shirt of this dude right now on Campus to show people who I rep.
But if this is used as an excuse for anything, like his losses and stuff, then it should be used the same for his wins.
So if you say he could have won if he wasn't drained...i'd apply the same to his wins at catchweight.

[SyrianKid]

so now you are discrediing all of Pacquuio win. You forgot hattton was ruined.

Sorry but its not my fault if Pacquiao wants to drain his opponents and do Catchweight Fights , dont blame me for posting the facts .



And yes Ricky Hatton lost his undefeated record against Mayweather .

[Carpe Diem]

Which ashy-kneed Pac fan wrote that? Puga? Princess? Toygirl? After undeleting all of those people from ignore I have to re-do it one by one. SMH.

[jabSTRAIGHTh00k]

SORRY :



De la Hoya claims Pacquiao beats weight-drained foes :




MANILA, Philippines – Former boxing great Oscar de la Hoya claimed the reason why Filipino superstar Manny Pacquiao has been successful in his last fights is that he keeps on beating his opponents through the weighing scale.

De la Hoya, who was forced by Pacquiao to quit after an 8-round beating in 2008, made the claim while pushing again for a third fight between the Filipino boxer and Mexican champion Juan Manuel Marquez.

"For me, Juan Manuel won the first two fights and he's the only one who succeeded in creating problems for Pacquiao, a fighter who has always forced his opponents, including myself, to lose weight and leave everything on the scale," De la Hoya said in Boxing Scene.com.

De la Hoya, who owns majority of Golden Boy Promotions (GBP), claims Pacquiao has always forced his opponents to drop down to uncomfortable weights to make the fights.

In their 2008 fight, De la Hoya worked hard to make the 147-pound limit just to face Pacquiao. This, he claims, was the reason he lost the bout.



http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12...t-drained-foes

who do i believe most?

nacho, who is known to be one of the great trainers of today, and with the reputation to being a straightforwarded, hardcore, say-it-how-is type guy.

http://www.boxingscene.com/nacho-speaks-on-de-la-hoyas-weight-pacquiao-loss--17438

or
Oscar, a promoter and a self-admitted liar.

hmmm?

[Pacquiao'd]

who do i believe most?

nacho, who is known to be one of the great trainers of today, and with the reputation to being a straightforwarded, hardcore, say-it-how-is type guy.

http://www.boxingscene.com/nacho-speaks-on-de-la-hoyas-weight-pacquiao-loss--17438

or
Oscar, a promoter and a self-admitted liar.

hmmm?

no. you look at the fact that oscar weighed less than pac and oscar was severely emaciated so much that they had to rehydrate him through IV drip which didnt work. you ****** *******s

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Just saw a poster post this and I had to make a thread about it, I just had to.



Does anyone else here have this school of thought? Because a "severely drained" fighter is one that can't pull the trigger, one that is weak, and one that is sluggish. Like, DLH when he fought Manny.

I was in the gym with him while training that fight and the Morales fight the answer is no, he was not drained at all for either of those fights and I have read *******s posting this **** to and its disgusting how far they will take things.

However what was going on during Marquez and Morales was Mannys promoter Murad Muhammud and Manny were at odds Murad wanted to get Manny away from Freddy, and Freddy advised Manny to seek legal help because he believed Murad was ripping him off.

For three camps in a row this **** went on, Marquez Battery and Morales Murad was sending people up to the gym daily to not just make sure manny was on track no sir, but to make sure Freddy didnt talk business to him and that Freddy just remained as a trainer.

There were tons of distractions in the gym, as hundreds of Filipino fans would show up to watch him train which is cool and all but Manny spent just as much time taking pictures signing autograps as he did training. all while Murad had some of his thugs up there keeping a close eye, i mean it was so busy there you couldnt even find a place to put your gym bag down it was insane no parking and really no room to work.

you could see it in the gym he was clearly distracted especially when he took Murad to court, as it was proven that Murad was ripping him off infact Murads people accidently gave Mannys attorneys the evidence that he and another promoter were ripping him off.

Israel Vazquez was whipping his ass in sparring going into the Marquez and Morales fights you just knew **** wasnt right...
But to answer the over all question no he was not drained for either fight and distractions do happen they are no excuses they just do happen however its your job as a fighter to not allow it to be a factor.

[jabSTRAIGHTh00k]

no. you look at the fact that oscar weighed less than pac and oscar was severely emaciated so much that they had to rehydrate him through IV drip which didnt work. you ****** *******s

were talking about facts now? Is it a fact that Oscar really was injecting fluids because Roach said he noticed IV marks right when they touched gloves before the fight? really? is that proof beyond reasonable doubt?

hmmm...

is amazing how you put so much stock to whatever roach says negatively about pac as oppose to what he says positively about him. ****** *****.