Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez Willing To Face Manny Pacquiao at 150

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  • boxingfan76
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    #61
    Originally posted by pacfan
    at 150, sergio's face will be brutalized by pac. he will not get near pac the entire fight. it's good money for sergio, though.

    make it happen please. i beg you arum and dibella, step up to the plate, please.

    AT 150 that may even be worse for Manny because Sergio will be even faster ,despite gaining 10lbs overnight.Pac isnt nor will he ever be a defensive fighter , the guy got hit by Margs 230 times okay? he got put in the hospital despite brutalizing Margs, his speed allowed him to do that, Manny is a brawler and will always be a brawler,he uses his footwork to brawl,its not in his dna to be defensive,the guys that have done the best against Manny are those whom have showed him no respect ,and Maravilla wouldnt show Manny any respect in the ring nor should he, as he has everything Manny has plus more,the only advantage Manny would have is his age,Dibella and Sergio have stepped up to the plate for over a year and a half now, its Manny and Arums turn now and nobody is counting on that becoming a reality....

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    • DoktorSleepless
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      #62
      Originally posted by flint
      they will try to put a limit on how much weight sergio can gain up to fight time.
      Freddie Roach actually said that if they fought Sergio at 150, he wouldn't want to put a fight night limit exactly because he thought Sergio draining himself and rehydrating 15 pounds over night would weaken and slow him down. Sergio has been saying he would want to lose the weight properly so probably would come in at 160 anyway with no fight night limit

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      • tomhawq
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        #63
        Originally posted by boxingfan76
        AT 150 that may even be worse for Manny because Sergio will be even faster ,despite gaining 10lbs overnight.Pac isnt nor will he ever be a defensive fighter , the guy got hit by Margs 230 times okay? he got put in the hospital despite brutalizing Margs, his speed allowed him to do that, Manny is a brawler and will always be a brawler,he uses his footwork to brawl,its not in his dna to be defensive,the guys that have done the best against Manny are those whom have showed him no respect ,and Maravilla wouldnt show Manny any respect in the ring nor should he, as he has everything Manny has plus more,the only advantage Manny would have is his age,Dibella and Sergio have stepped up to the plate for over a year and a half now, its Manny and Arums turn now and nobody is counting on that becoming a reality....
        at 150, martinez won't do a margarito come forward style, i agree. but you know i noticed that sergio is getting more adventurous these days and wants to tough it out. probably for the fans and you know these guys are starting to realize that you can't attract fans by being too defensive. marquez, for instance, have turned into an offense and defense fighter.

        at 154, fight would favor martinez and pac would probably do a narvaez defense the entire fight. pac would be brutalized this time if he got caught.

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        • ThePrince
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          #64
          Arum tried to buy out Dibella when Cotto-Martinez was being discussed, Dibella was pissed and in turn offered to buy out Arum as hilarious as that was. What would the split be and would it be a co-promotion with Dibella?

          Also, what the hell does Pac (or Floyd for that matter) gain by taking on Sergio at 150-154?

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          • boxingfan76
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            #65
            Originally posted by ThePrince
            Arum tried to buy out Dibella when Cotto-Martinez was being discussed, Dibella was pissed and in turn offered to buy out Arum as hilarious as that was. What would the split be and would it be a co-promotion with Dibella?

            Also, what the hell does Pac (or Floyd for that matter) gain by taking on Sergio at 150-154?
            they would gain being on the right side of history thats what,the guy in your sig Sugar Ray Robinson was the best pound for pound ever! the term was coined for him he was a welter that went as high as light heavy while stiil being a natural welter,to be pound for pound the best means to face guys that you may not beat pac hasnt done this in a very long time what did cotto,margs,and delahoya gain from fighting manny at weights that only favored manny???

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            • Bushbaby
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              #66
              Originally posted by ThePrince
              Arum tried to buy out Dibella when Cotto-Martinez was being discussed, Dibella was pissed and in turn offered to buy out Arum as hilarious as that was. What would the split be and would it be a co-promotion with Dibella?

              Also, what the hell does Pac (or Floyd for that matter) gain by taking on Sergio at 150-154?
              Wait, the bold, are you serious? What would the #1 & 2 pfp fighters gain by taking on the best fighter that either would have fought their entire career? I don't know, maybe no criticism at all compared to boths last 3 fights at the very least. Floyd or pacman fighting Martinez at 154 could not be criticized at all, period. More like bragged about for eternity.

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              • Mack
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                #67
                Only a dumbass or someone who DIDN'T watch the fight would say that Martinez lost to Williams and had a draw with Cintron, Facts aren't always the truth.

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                • straightleft
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Fetta
                  Yes he lost to Pwill (lot closer than scores) but then annilated him and the Cintron fight if you saw it he beat him TWICE. When a ref counts to ten its over and he beat him by decision.

                  No i dont think he should fight PAc cause Pac doesnt want it. PAc said ill fight him at 150 then recently said 147 only. Now according to alot of posters on here that is considered a DUCK. I personally think he would end Pac career cause he is bigger and way better than stationary Marg now but if Pac can fight someone at 150 then why not him.
                  Are you ****** and can't count a number just like the *****s here? Pac fights at 147 he never get pass at 144 during weigh-in and so his only fight at 150. Margarito already beat Martinez ass. What makes you think he will not fight Martinez at 150 even though with Pac obvious weight disadvantage. Did you know Pac real weight classes should between 135-140 if you look at his weigh-in fight night (148) and Martinez is a middleweight.

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                  • ThePrince
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    Wait, the bold, are you serious? What would the #1 & 2 pfp fighters gain by taking on the best fighter that either would have fought their entire career? I don't know, maybe no criticism at all compared to boths last 3 fights at the very least. Floyd or pacman fighting Martinez at 154 could not be criticized at all, period. More like bragged about for eternity.
                    Stop it.

                    Pound for Pound, Sergio is not a better fighter than Barrera, Morales, Marquez were at their apex. Sergio has no belt, no fan base, NOTHING to offer either guy below 155. If it happened at 155+, that would allow either guy to get the lineal MW strap. For Pac that would mean 9 weight division belts and 5 lineal crowns (both record breakers... Pac holds both records). If either guy fights him at 150-154, there's guy who will copy and paste 3 page long essays about cheating history, Sergio being drained, blah blah blah.

                    So I'll ask again... what the hell does Sergio offer at 150?

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                    • mathed
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                      #70
                      I am hoping and thinking that one of the only reasons that Martinez is saying this is because he knows that with his height and reach advantage and his reflexes/movement, he will be able to counter Pac and catch him with counters. I think If Sergio is given adequate time to make that weight...like 6 months, he will be able to outbox Pac. Still a crap idea though....I thought 154 was pretty fair but at 150, it is kind of a joke to me.

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