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  • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
    How come you guys are so ****** ?

    FACT: Martinez is a large JMW who (by punching above his weight) beat the #1 and #2 middleweights

    FACT: Pac ducked at least 2 guys at 130, he ducked every top lightweight, he ducked every top jww, he ducked every JMW on the planet, and he has never fought a welter ranked higher than 4.

    What the *** are you guys smoking ?

    And the manny-circus continues.....

    Im pretty sure Cotto was a top 4 welterweight the time Manny fought him. I dont understand why people say fighters are ducking other fighters when youre moving up in weight. Its not like he took a vacation and stayed in the same weight class . You guys want it to be like the old days when fighters have 100+ fight careers and fight everyone and its not possible. You make the most money fighting the biggest draws.

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    • Pacman will never fight Martinez. Sergio isn't in Unlce Bob's pocket.

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      • martinez at 150? cmon son.
        fight the winner of cotto vs margarito at 155. get your ass whooped nd go back to argentina nd play soccer. stop lookin for a big pay day you dont deserve. adios.

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        • Originally posted by Lineal Champ View Post
          Im pretty sure Cotto was a top 4 welterweight the time Manny fought him. I dont understand why people say fighters are ducking other fighters when youre moving up in weight. Its not like he took a vacation and stayed in the same weight class . You guys want it to be like the old days when fighters have 100+ fight careers and fight everyone and its not possible. You make the most money fighting the biggest draws.
          Ranked higher than Manny/Floyd/Margarito/Mosley ?

          When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.

          Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.

          Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.

          Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....

          "I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.

          But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.

          Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker.
          "

          Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for Pac..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.

          A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame

          Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, Manny demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.

          But even that was not enough for Pac, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
          http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865

          Catch-weights.....

          There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....

          1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight

          2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage

          Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

          The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

          Shame on Pac for cheating history, not once, but twice, because he did the exact same thing to Margarito.

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