VIDEO NEW, James Toney (padwork, with mcgirt)

[Lucky Jim]

The sayings of BAD NEWS BUDDY

"I won't let you take this kind of punishment"

"You know I love you too much to let you go on"

"Come on baby, do it like we did in the gym. In the gym!"

Any others?

[Tiozzo]

Putting 40mil on Lebedev, any takers?

I'll take a 10 million bet

[boxing_omega]

toney is not brain damaged.the man has 70 pro fights,with alot of them against fighters in a weightclass his body wasent even made for.besides the fact he dominated the heavyweight division with speed and skills,his mentailty is still stronger then most super fighters today.most the people who doubt toney,never competed in the sport obviously. because as a fighter myself i kno a strong mentality is a important fundamental to have.he does have a lil wear and tear on his body but his mindset is still sharp which will continue to project the elite defence and speed he had as a middle weight... i predict a tko win for toney

[cupocity303]

BUMP.............

[Hougigo]

Yup... Toney killed him...

[cupocity303]

Shots going off because they're in a gymnasium.

He is actually looking like crap. Lazy boy punches.

Combined with the fact that he is Punch drunk, 43 years old, and will be fighting at a weight that he hasn't fought at in years, and may end up being drained like Oscar, I predict that Lebedev outworks him by UD.

Toney will shoulder roll and survive, take a few and give one back here and there, but he will be low on activity and there other guy will just stay busy and bloody him up.

......................

[cupocity303]

Since you're such an expert, lets make a little bet amongst 2004 and 2005 members. Points aren't the issue, just something to make it official.

I know enough Boxing to know that Toney is finished. Lebedeb while not too gifted, is more then enough to beat a washed up, 43 year old who is coming down in weight.

It's no longer about Toney just having to lose weight to fight better. That used to be the storyline. We're past that, he is shot to **** and Lebedev will do similar things that Fres Oquendo did Vs Toney, perhaps even better.

And if that isn't good enough, he's got the hometown advantage to bring it home, just in case it's close.

What do you say Rockin'?

.........................

[cupocity303]

This is Chris Byrd-moving-down-to-Light-Heavyweight-esque. Delahoya-moving-back-down-to-147-esque. WITH A CHERRY ON TOP.

Toney isn't/wasn't in half decent shape as those guys. The weight alone will not be an issue. It's a combination of everything. His age, his shape or lack off, over the years, and just showing signs of washed-up-ed-ness, since the Oquendo fight. Has he been very active since then? The old saying, inactivity doesn't help an aging fighter.

That, and combine it with the fact that Lebedev isn't a pure bum or journeyman, and you're looking at a clear cut Decision win, with Lebedev outworking him, busting him up, but Toney still having that defense and avoiding the worst shots that Roy couldn't. If Toney proves me wrong and performs half decently, making it competitive, Lebedev's got the Hometown edge and will get the nod, like Toney did vs Oquendo.

.......................

[SplitSecond]

.......................

spon on.....

[cupocity303]

I bet 4 million of worthless points : Toney schools the russian

what do you say?

Too bad we never made that bet official.