Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: I Can't Force Mayweather Jr. To Fight Me

[Dedication]

What was odlh talking about when he said the fight was almost finalized?


Even more important, what was ross greenburg talking about when he said he had been negotiating with both sides?

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10243.html

[Toyman]

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10243.html

lol exactly what part of that pertains to what i said?

[D4thincarnation]

I wonder if Floyd will be thinking about boxing for the remainder of the year.

When Pacquiao fights Floyd, want to take an vacation and not think about boxing.

When Pacquiao signs to fight another fighter, Floyd remember about boxing again and resurfaces.

Floyd Mayweather is a ATG ducker.

He's got some mad ducking skills.

[h2k]

I like pac but he should stop calling someone he knew that he could beat, he should start calling martinez and fight him at 154 or 160lbs.

[Ryannn]

You can interpret it however you want. We both know your opinion on the matter and trying to explain mine would be of no use to either of us.

you're stance is actually pretty unclear to me.

in one hand, you seem to want better testing implemented by the commission. in another, you seem to want testing done by a third party and the commission can do whatever the hell they want.

the only thing consistent in your stance is that it seems to conveniently coincide with defending floyd and shiiitting on pac.

[Ryannn]

But what were they then? After the 1st round of negotiations, Mayweather told all parties involved that his previous deal was off the table. Full random drug testing, or no fight. Pac, in fact, let's say Arum because clearly he runs the show promised Margarito a fight and to dupe the public, YOU, sent Floyd a proposal with the old deal - Why? C'mon BS.

there were discussions from both sides with kizer and he made it perfectly clear who didn't want the fight.

[Kenny MF Powers]

you're stance is actually pretty unclear to me.

in one hand, you seem to want better testing implemented by the commission. in another, you seem to want testing done by a third party and the commission can do whatever the hell they want.

the only thing consistent in your stance is that it seems to conveniently coincide with defending floyd and shiiitting on pac.

Not sure why I bother but Ill try to help you comprehend. Again, its useless as you have already sworn a blind allegiance to Pac that is not open to questioning his or his teams actions. I have no issue with that. Its your opinion. Im not gonna try to change that, and you can think what you want. I dont hate Pac, and I dont love Floyd. I do have an opinion on the state of the fight though and we obviously disagree. Not a big deal.

Better testing implemented by the commission would be great, I have no issue with that at all. Thats not the case here though. If they want to do it for one fight thats not accomplishing the goal of better testing across the board. If its only one fight theres already something in place better equipped to handle that. No need to bother with petitioning the commission in hopes that they come up with a way to handle the testing...

To petition the board to handle one test for one fight is not only not guaranteed to go through but in my opinion was only brought up as an attempt to not go through USADA. Why? I dont know, but I have to ask again. Why cant Floyd get one single thing in contract negotiations. He says I want USADA OSDT. Why cant it be a simple yes? What is the problem there? Why should there be any negotiation in regard to simple drug testing? If it were going through some new untested agency I could understand hesitation, that is clearly not the case with WADA accredited USADA...

[Toyman]

Not sure why I bother but Ill try to help you comprehend. Again, its useless as you have already sworn a blind allegiance to Pac that is not open to questioning his or his teams actions. I have no issue with that. Its your opinion. Im not gonna try to change that, and you can think what you want. I dont hate Pac, and I dont love Floyd. I do have an opinion on the state of the fight though and we obviously disagree. Not a big deal.

Better testing implemented by the commission would be great, I have no issue with that at all. Thats not the case here though. If they want to do it for one fight thats not accomplishing the goal of better testing across the board. If its only one fight theres already something in place better equipped to handle that. No need to bother with petitioning the commission in hopes that they come up with a way to handle the testing...

To petition the board to handle one test for one fight is not only not guaranteed to go through but in my opinion was only brought up as an attempt to not go through USADA. Why? I dont know, but I have to ask again. Why cant Floyd get one single thing in contract negotiations. He says I want USADA OSDT. Why cant it be a simple yes? What is the problem there? Why should there be any negotiation in regard to simple drug testing? If it were going through some new untested agency I could understand hesitation, that is clearly not the case with WADA accredited USADA...

thats where you're wrong.Keith kizer clearly stated that had they petitioned, they would have agreed.

[Ryannn]

Not sure why I bother but Ill try to help you comprehend. Again, its useless as you have already sworn a blind allegiance to Pac that is not open to questioning his or his teams actions. I have no issue with that. Its your opinion. Im not gonna try to change that, and you can think what you want. I dont hate Pac, and I dont love Floyd. I do have an opinion on the state of the fight though and we obviously disagree. Not a big deal.

well, you apparently haven't been reading my posts regarding the issue so i'll spell it out for you.

im not against better testing. im all for it but my issue here is pacquiao is the one being singled out when the commission is the one responsible for the testing and pacquiao has been complying with it, and has said will continue to comply with it even with additional testing.

testing should be a standard not a stipulation.

and im all for pacquiao taking the extra floyd tests just (shocked?) cause it will be a step closer to making the fight we all want. which in countless videos he said he will take it.

Better testing implemented by the commission would be great, I have no issue with that at all. Thats not the case here though. If they want to do it for one fight thats not accomplishing the goal of better testing across the board. If its only one fight theres already something in place better equipped to handle that. No need to bother with petitioning the commission in hopes that they come up with a way to handle the testing...

wtf. so you expect the commission to go full blown testing for all fights overnight?

you gotta start somewhere. maybe nsac will make it their standard to test fighters year round. why be against better testing for one fight?

To petition the board to handle one test for one fight is not only not guaranteed to go through but in my opinion was only brought up as an attempt to not go through USADA. Why? I dont know, but I have to ask again. Why cant Floyd get one single thing in contract negotiations. He says I want USADA OSDT. Why cant it be a simple yes? What is the problem there? Why should there be any negotiation in regard to simple drug testing? If it were going through some new untested agency I could understand hesitation, that is clearly not the case with WADA accredited USADA...

maybe because the commission is actually the one responsible for doing the tests in the first place, and fights can be sanctioned without USADA?

you guys should stop pretending this is some common request fighters make. its not. it isn't like the weight, or the purse split, or ring size.

and floyd had how many what, 3 fights with "Olympic Style Testing" and it isn't even being done for Al haymon nor GBP fighters. it isn't doing shiiit either.

[Kenny MF Powers]

thats where you're wrong.Keith kizer clearly stated that had they petitioned, they would have agreed.

You just went full ******...

"I know that Richard Shaefer and Bob Arum back in early 2010 had said “look, can we just petition the commission and see if they’ll be willing to do additional testing on our dime? I want to present that to them because we want everything au****ious of the athletic commission.” I said “definitely.” Any promoter can petition the commission for anything. It doesn’t mean they’ll say yes or they’ll say no.

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