Shane Mosley- If Floyd wanted the fight, it would have already happened

[tomhawq]

Hagler said similar things and he puts it succinctly if you really want to fight someone, "I'll even fight you in your living room. I'll come to your house."

"Who are you? Who are you (Floyd)? Stop the nonsense and fight Pacquiao" -- Hagler.

;-)

mosley and hagler. what exactly do they get out of saying these things?

that's what floyd apologists should be asking themselves instead of regurgitating the same crappy arguments only wrestlemania fans and sissies care about.

do these floyd apologists ever use their brains? you'd think they're living in a floyd household and they always have this desperate need to defend the pu55y.

[Larry the boss]

didnt he fight floyd first to??

[D4thincarnation]

Stating the obvious there Shane.

Everybody knows it.

It took Floyd two years to even get the courage to say he wanted to fight Pacquiao but that was just for the cameras.

He even said that he only said Pacquiao was next because that is what his fans wanted to hear.

Boxing can be a dangerous sport and Floyd wants to leave it with his facutlies intact, maybe thats why he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao.

Obviously he can't admit that pubically because he would lose his money generating power.

Maybe in 20-30 years time Floyd will be able to speak the truth about not taking the Pacquiao fight.

[Brother Jay]

Stating the obvious there Shane.

Everybody knows it.

It took Floyd two years to even get the courage to say he wanted to fight Pacquiao but that was just for the cameras.

He even said that he only said Pacquiao was next because that is what his fans wanted to hear.

Boxing can be a dangerous sport and Floyd wants to leave it with his facutlies intact, maybe thats why he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao.

Obviously he can't admit that pubically because he would lose his money generating power.

Maybe in 20-30 years time Floyd will be able to speak the truth about not taking the Pacquiao fight.

Are you serious when you write this?

Pac has been outboxed by a brawler and knocked out by D fighters. There's nothing special about a guy who is only willing to fight ONE TYPE OF FIGHTER.

Barrera, Morales, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley ... what do they ALL have in common?

NONE OF THEM ARE SLICK FIGHTERS!

All of those guys are the "stand and trade" type fighters who do not use the "hit without being hit" approach to boxing. Pacquiao excels against that type, but those fighters are not the only types of fighters that exist in boxing.

As I said recently in another thread, Marquez is NOT the slickest fighter in the world but he is ABSOLUTELY THEE SLICKEST FIGHTER THAT PACQUIAO HAS EVER FACED! Look what happened in both fights. Pacquiao's only moment in their first fight was in the first round. Pacquiao had even fewer moments in the second fight. Yet Pacquiao was saved by the judges BOTH times against a superior boxer who is not nearly as slick as some others.

Pacquiao, like most one dimensional fighters, won't do well against a slick fighter. The slick fighter doesn't even have to be that good.

In that other thread, I also referenced the fact that Erik Morales got completely dominated and outboxed by Zahir Raheem. It was uncanny. Morales, coming off a spectacular win over Pacquiao, seemed completely inept against the slick Raheem. Morales lost every single round in a 12 round fight, and the boxing world decided that it was just better for everyone to just not acknowledge what had just happened. Zahir was not offered the match with Pacquiao. Instead Morales was. Raheem wasn't put on any bull**** P4P lists. Instead Pacquiao was for beating the freshly defeated Morales.

Pacquiao moved up, avoiding Raheem as if Raheem never existed because he knew the trouble that Zahir posed. Its the same thing Pacquiao did at 140lbs. Pacquiao avoided any slick boxers in favor of facing the recently knocked out brawler Ricky Hatton.

Slick boxers are a brawler's nightmare. Ask around, casual fight fans. See if I'm correct. Go watch Mayorga/Spinks. Go watch Alexander/Urango. Go watch Morales/Raheem. Go watch Roy Jones/Ruiz. Go watch Toney/Holyfield. Go watch Junior Jones/Barrera. Go watch Byrd/Tua or Byrd/Holyfield. Go watch Taylor/Lacey. Go watch Dirrell/Abraham. Go watch Dawson/Johnson or Dawson/Tarver.

In the other thread, I also went as far as to mention that Mayweather is slicker, faster, stronger and larger than Marquez. Marquez did most things right and outboxed Pacquiao in both fights. Now just imagine if Floyd does all the things Marquez did right and then some.

There is no question that Floyd is a much superior boxer than Marquez, who is an elite talent himself. Marquez came back from being floored 3 times in the first round to get a draw. that means he had to box Pacquiao's asss off. If Marquez can do that, wait and see what size boot Floyd puts in Manny's asss.

[succu8us]

Floyd accepted those demands, pac didnt. What does that tell you in regard to who didnt want the fight very much?

Regardless of all that though, why shouldnt he look out for himself? Isnt that rule number 1 in life? Self preservation...

Do you disagree that better testing is good for boxing? Even if its only Floyds fights? Thats a start... Would you have the same stance and be calling pac a "ducker, coward" if Pac requested the testing and floyd declined?

floyd accepted demands blah blah blah....

but why floydie keeps on avoiding questions that are related to pac?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd wouldn't fight Cotto, Margarito or Pacquiao, even though, Floyd says, they are easy money.

So why not just make easy money against the promoter he hates the most?

He'd kill two birds with one stone each time he fought those guys.


Beat Bob Arums fighters, and take Bob Arums money, easily.

I wish Floyd had just an ounce of the bravery his fans do. We might have been able to see him do great things. Instead, he has the most fantasy matchups against guys who were in his era.

[Kenny MF Powers]

floyd accepted demands blah blah blah....

but why floydie keeps on avoiding questions that are related to pac?

You are the one avoiding the questions...

Answering with Blah blah blah. Address my questions and ill gladly take a shot at yours. Im really not into the childish back and forth games though. So come at me with logic and ill gladly engage in conversation with you. I dont mind chatting with alts.

[tomhawq]

Are you serious when you write this?

Pac has been outboxed by a brawler and knocked out by D fighters. There's nothing special about a guy who is only willing to fight ONE TYPE OF FIGHTER.

Barrera, Morales, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley ... what do they ALL have in common?

NONE OF THEM ARE SLICK FIGHTERS!

All of those guys are the "stand and trade" type fighters who do not use the "hit without being hit" approach to boxing. Pacquiao excels against that type, but those fighters are not the only types of fighters that exist in boxing.

As I said recently in another thread, Marquez is NOT the slickest fighter in the world but he is ABSOLUTELY THEE SLICKEST FIGHTER THAT PACQUIAO HAS EVER FACED! Look what happened in both fights. Pacquiao's only moment in their first fight was in the first round. Pacquiao had even fewer moments in the second fight. Yet Pacquiao was saved by the judges BOTH times against a superior boxer who is not nearly as slick as some others.

Pacquiao, like most one dimensional fighters, won't do well against a slick fighter. The slick fighter doesn't even have to be that good.

In that other thread, I also referenced the fact that Erik Morales got completely dominated and outboxed by Zahir Raheem. It was uncanny. Morales, coming off a spectacular win over Pacquiao, seemed completely inept against the slick Raheem. Morales lost every single round in a 12 round fight, and the boxing world decided that it was just better for everyone to just not acknowledge what had just happened. Zahir was not offered the match with Pacquiao. Instead Morales was. Raheem wasn't put on any bull**** P4P lists. Instead Pacquiao was for beating the freshly defeated Morales.

Pacquiao moved up, avoiding Raheem as if Raheem never existed because he knew the trouble that Zahir posed. Its the same thing Pacquiao did at 140lbs. Pacquiao avoided any slick boxers in favor of facing the recently knocked out brawler Ricky Hatton.

Slick boxers are a brawler's nightmare. Ask around, casual fight fans. See if I'm correct. Go watch Mayorga/Spinks. Go watch Alexander/Urango. Go watch Morales/Raheem. Go watch Roy Jones/Ruiz. Go watch Toney/Holyfield. Go watch Junior Jones/Barrera. Go watch Byrd/Tua or Byrd/Holyfield. Go watch Taylor/Lacey. Go watch Dirrell/Abraham. Go watch Dawson/Johnson or Dawson/Tarver.

In the other thread, I also went as far as to mention that Mayweather is slicker, faster, stronger and larger than Marquez. Marquez did most things right and outboxed Pacquiao in both fights. Now just imagine if Floyd does all the things Marquez did right and then some.

There is no question that Floyd is a much superior boxer than Marquez, who is an elite talent himself. Marquez came back from being floored 3 times in the first round to get a draw. that means he had to box Pacquiao's asss off. If Marquez can do that, wait and see what size boot Floyd puts in Manny's asss.

look at this idiot. most of his long-winded, boring posts can be summed up in one sentence: pac is just an overrated, one-dimensional midget who fought nothing but inferior boxers.

he can't explain why pu55y boy floyd, supposedly the best fighter in the world, is so scared to fight the amateurish midget. how did that happen? here is this idiot saying pacquiao is just an inferior fighter and here is this pu55y so scared to fight the midget.

floyd apologists will never make any sense.

[Brother Jay]

look at this idiot. most of his long-winded, boring posts can be summed up in one sentence: pac is just an overrated, one-dimensional midget who fought nothing but inferior boxers.

he can't explain why pu55y boy floyd, supposedly the best fighter in the world, is so scared to fight the amateurish midget. how did that happen? here is this idiot saying pacquiao is just an inferior fighter and here is this pu55y so scared to fight the midget.

floyd apologists will never make any sense.

I can easily explain it.

You just won't accept the truth because you're self worth is caught up in a sporting event.

I have no such hang ups. How ell Floyd does in a boxing match means nothing to Americans. How well ANY athlete does in any sport means little to any American unless they are betting. Its fun to root but we Americans don't predicate our worth on bull**** like that.

If Floyd never fights again he'll be rated leaps and bounds above Pacquiao. That would be because he's spent 15 years at the top, not 3-4 years at the top against men who were no longer ranked even in the top 3 any longer.

I know you little d!ck peasants don't like to hear that, but the truth is you criticize Mayweather for fighting the guys that Pacquiao runs to face once Floyd's beaten them.

One is a hunter. The other is a scavenger. One fights the highest ranked champions and contenders. While the other fights 5th ranked guys who have suffered the biggest loss of their careers within their last 2 fights.

Mayweather was #1 before Pacquiao, and judging by the quality of the competition he's faced, their rank and if they were coming off a win or not, Floyd is #1 right now.

Your 3rd world peasant arguments are as meaningful as pocket lint. You have nothing to say about the subject, so you attack the posters. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, one man doesn't define my people. One fight doesn't hold any glory for any American.

I have more to live for than whether some hype job fighter wins or not. This is how pathetic you and people like you are. You have nothing and you are nothing.

Why else spend so much time coming to a boxing website when you barely if ever discuss boxing? You simply comment about comments!

I'd suggest you get a life. Go buy yourself a rickshaw, make some money and maybe you can buy yourself some tail if your too pathetic to get some on your own. You clearly have way too much time if you can spend literally hours on a boxing website talking about everything BUT boxing.

This isn't just directed at your pathetic asss, Pacfan. This is directed at all little d!ck peasants who read on this site. All the sad souls who don't even watch boxing but worship Manny Pacquiao.

That's about 90% of this site.

Some of you are so desperate to seem important that you actually pay money for rep and other foolishness so finally you can win at something as pathetic as neg-repping people you disagree with.

LOL .. good luck with that. If that brings life to your otherwise sorry life, I hope you win in that aspect.

[tomhawq]

I can easily explain it.

You just won't accept the truth because you're self worth is caught up in a sporting event.

I have no such hang ups. How ell Floyd does in a boxing match means nothing to Americans. How well ANY athlete does in any sport means little to any American unless they are betting. Its fun to root but we Americans don't predicate our worth on bull**** like that.

If Floyd never fights again he'll be rated leaps and bounds above Pacquiao. That would be because he's spent 15 years at the top, not 3-4 years at the top against men who were no longer ranked even in the top 3 any longer.

I know you little d!ck peasants don't like to hear that, but the truth is you criticize Mayweather for fighting the guys that Pacquiao runs to face once Floyd's beaten them.

One is a hunter. The other is a scavenger. One fights the highest ranked champions and contenders. While the other fights 5th ranked guys who have suffered the biggest loss of their careers within their last 2 fights.

Mayweather was #1 before Pacquiao, and judging by the quality of the competition he's faced, their rank and if they were coming off a win or not, Floyd is #1 right now.

Your 3rd world peasant arguments are as meaningful as pocket lint. You have nothing to say about the subject, so you attack the posters. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, one man doesn't define my people. One fight doesn't hold any glory for any American.

I have more to live for than whether some hype job fighter wins or not. This is how pathetic you and people like you are. You have nothing and you are nothing.

Why else spend so much time coming to a boxing website when you barely if ever discuss boxing? You simply comment about comments!

I'd suggest you get a life. Go buy yourself a rickshaw, make some money and maybe you can buy yourself some tail if your too pathetic to get some on your own. You clearly have way too much time if you can spend literally hours on a boxing website talking about everything BUT boxing.

This isn't just directed at your pathetic asss, Pacfan. This is directed at all little d!ck peasants who read on this site. All the sad souls who don't even watch boxing but worship Manny Pacquiao.

That's about 90% of this site.

Some of you are so desperate to seem important that you actually pay money for rep and other foolishness so finally you can win at something as pathetic as neg-repping people you disagree with.

LOL .. good luck with that. If that brings life to your otherwise sorry life, I hope you win in that aspect.

so you still can't explain why the best fighter in the world is so scared to fight the overrated amateurish midget, eh?