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  • #21
    Originally posted by tatangb45 View Post
    More crap that are in no way related to what Shane said about Floyd not wanting to fight Pac.
    Oh its relevant. Its just that you were educated in the 3rd world school system. So you are lost when conversing with anyone who communicates beyond a 1st grade level.

    Shane Mosley knows first hand that wanting a match with Pacquiao and getting one are two very different things. He himself has begged for a match and was denied based on the fact that he was too good and not able to make the catchweight of 142lbs. This all comes from Freddie Roach's own mouth. Its available on Youtube.

    I said that to say Team Pacquiao avoids ALL OF THE TOUGHEST FIGHTS UNTIL THE BOXER THAT THEY HAVE BEEN AVOIDING LOSES. He did it with DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and now Marquez. It had nothing to do with timing either. Pacquiao sought out Cotto in defeat instead of facing Mosley after he became the #1 WW by destroying Margarito.

    If Pacquiao decides to flip flop on an original demand as if its something new sprung on him, only he looks like the cowardly fool, not Floyd.

    Floyd has lived up to his end of the negotiations. Manny promised his fans that he would as well and then went back on his word at the last second. Nothing Mosley can say will change that FACT.

    The point is made whether you can put down your dog jerky long enough to comprehend it or not, PootyTang.

    And weren't you one of the peasants on this site posting that video of Pacquiao stating that he would live up to ALL OF FLOYD MAYWEATHER'S DEMANDS???

    What ever happened with that? I mean .. USADA was the agency from the beginning. Why the hold up? how does this fall on Floyd's shoulders? Wasn't Pacquiao aware of this demand from the very beginning? Why freeze up and choke now? Why make issues over USADA when he had known and agreed to use them in the notorious video?

    Why pretend that Floyd doesn't want to fight when its Manny that doesn't want to take tests that he's agreed to?

    You know why?

    Because 2+2=3 in peasant math. **** never adds up with you, but you people sure know how to be loud and show your assses even if it makes you all look like assses yourselves.

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    • #22
      Yawn...

      Everyone knows Floyd is ducking Pac, end of story. The ball has been in Floyd's hands for quite some time now and he never even tried to throw it back to Pac. Oh, I remember, he did. But he suddenly confirmed that those were just an April Fool's joke.

      Let's just see after Pac's November fight.

      So, can we simply just move on?

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      • #23
        Mosley needed the fight with Floyd and manny.
        Mayweather doesn't need it because he gets big pay days every fight.

        So What Mosley is saying is coming from a desperate, broke fighters point of view, right after his wife had just took all of his $$$$$$$$$$$$ in their divorce settlement.

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        • #24
          only floyd sheep thinks floyd aing ducking Pacquiao Cotto and margarito. naive b1tches.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Nonitard View Post
            Yea sure why not.

            But like Shane said, if Floyd wanted the fight, it would have happened. And a steroid test is not the real reason it didnt happen

            You have Floyd rumored to fight a middleweight in Martinez but thinks its too dangerous for him to fight a small welterweight?

            No, steroids are not an excuse.
            Shane might've said that, but it applies to Pac as well. The difference is, Floyd actually compromised going TOWARDS making the fight. Pac did the opposite. He started at agreeing and went to 30 days. Not to mention, PAC's team was the one that walked away from negotiations, for something that they would agree to a few months later. Anyone with common sense would have to agree that Floyd showed he wanted the fight(at least in the first negotiations much more than Pac did) and if Pac and team wanted REALLY wanted the fight, it would've already have happened!

            Yes, you are right, a steroid test is NOT reason not to fight. But common sense and 99.99% of the population of the world says that would say that the one not willing to take a steroid test for 50-70 million dollars is more unreasonable than the one asking to have the test in the first place.

            It doesn't matter if he will fight a middleweight. The point is, we all know that the middle weight will take the test and at least in his eyes, he knows will be clean. The fact that he will fight a middle weight and not to mention the #3 prev #2 p4p, should tell u that it has nothing to do with fear that he has not fought Pacman.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by dosepulgada View Post
              Yawn...

              Everyone knows Floyd is ducking Pac, end of story. The ball has been in Floyd's hands for quite some time now and he never even tried to throw it back to Pac. Oh, I remember, he did. But he suddenly confirmed that those were just an April Fool's joke.

              Let's just see after Pac's November fight.

              So, can we simply just move on?
              So why did Pac and team walk away from negotiations, only to accept that terms(ones that weren't being offered any longer)a few months later? Again, PAC walked away from negotiations, not Mayweather!

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              • #27
                At what year did that happen because we're nearing 2012 buddy.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by gayfish View Post
                  only floyd sheep thinks floyd aing ducking Pacquiao Cotto and margarito. naive b1tches.
                  Just because you tell a lie over and over, doesn't mean it is true.

                  The proof is right there, not stop spewing nonsense!

                  http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

                  Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.

                  According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.

                  "I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."

                  Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.

                  "Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.

                  "We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."

                  Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

                  "We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

                  Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

                  The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

                  Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

                  Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

                  "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

                  Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

                  Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

                  The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

                  Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

                  "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

                  "But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by dosepulgada View Post
                    At what year did that happen because we're nearing 2012 buddy.
                    And that matters how? So now that I prove that Pac ducked Mayweather, now you want to talk about the year? As if that matters anyway. Tell me, at that time, were you saying "Pac ducked Mayweather? I would be my life u weren't. You were probably like all the other liars, spewing crap and saying it was FMJ fault at that time too.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by megadeth View Post
                      And that matters how? So now that I prove that Pac ducked Mayweather, now you want to talk about the year? As if that matters anyway. Tell me, at that time, were you saying "Pac ducked Mayweather? I would be my life u weren't. You were probably like all the other liars, spewing crap and saying it was FMJ fault at that time too.
                      Outstanding, my man. Simply outstanding.

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