Shane Mosley- If Floyd wanted the fight, it would have already happened

[tatangb45]

I can easily explain it.

You just won't accept the truth because you're self worth is caught up in a sporting event.

I have no such hang ups. How ell Floyd does in a boxing match means nothing to Americans. How well ANY athlete does in any sport means little to any American unless they are betting. Its fun to root but we Americans don't predicate our worth on bull**** like that.

If Floyd never fights again he'll be rated leaps and bounds above Pacquiao. That would be because he's spent 15 years at the top, not 3-4 years at the top against men who were no longer ranked even in the top 3 any longer.

I know you little d!ck peasants don't like to hear that, but the truth is you criticize Mayweather for fighting the guys that Pacquiao runs to face once Floyd's beaten them.

One is a hunter. The other is a scavenger. One fights the highest ranked champions and contenders. While the other fights 5th ranked guys who have suffered the biggest loss of their careers within their last 2 fights.

Mayweather was #1 before Pacquiao, and judging by the quality of the competition he's faced, their rank and if they were coming off a win or not, Floyd is #1 right now.

Your 3rd world peasant arguments are as meaningful as pocket lint. You have nothing to say about the subject, so you attack the posters. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, one man doesn't define my people. One fight doesn't hold any glory for any American.

I have more to live for than whether some hype job fighter wins or not. This is how pathetic you and people like you are. You have nothing and you are nothing.

Why else spend so much time coming to a boxing website when you barely if ever discuss boxing? You simply comment about comments!

I'd suggest you get a life. Go buy yourself a rickshaw, make some money and maybe you can buy yourself some tail if your too pathetic to get some on your own. You clearly have way too much time if you can spend literally hours on a boxing website talking about everything BUT boxing.

This isn't just directed at your pathetic asss, Pacfan. This is directed at all little d!ck peasants who read on this site. All the sad souls who don't even watch boxing but worship Manny Pacquiao.

That's about 90% of this site.

Some of you are so desperate to seem important that you actually pay money for rep and other foolishness so finally you can win at something as pathetic as neg-repping people you disagree with.

LOL .. good luck with that. If that brings life to your otherwise sorry life, I hope you win in that aspect.

Another novel with nothing but CRAP.

Floyd is a certified COWARD. He ducked the best in his division before, and he is ducking Pac now.
That's all there is to it. That's all you need to know.

[Kenny MF Powers]

Another novel with nothing but CRAP.

Floyd is a certified COWARD. He ducked the best in his division before, and he is ducking Pac now.
That's all there is to it. That's all you need to know.

Lol at this guy calling a world champion a coward...

Could i get a link to your boxrec page mr billy badass?

[RespekonMyName]

Another novel with nothing but CRAP.

Floyd is a certified COWARD. He ducked the best in his division before, and he is ducking Pac now.
That's all there is to it. That's all you need to know.

I can easily explain it.

You just won't accept the truth because you're self worth is caught up in a sporting event.

I have no such hang ups. How ell Floyd does in a boxing match means nothing to Americans. How well ANY athlete does in any sport means little to any American unless they are betting. Its fun to root but we Americans don't predicate our worth on bull**** like that.

If Floyd never fights again he'll be rated leaps and bounds above Pacquiao. That would be because he's spent 15 years at the top, not 3-4 years at the top against men who were no longer ranked even in the top 3 any longer.

I know you little d!ck peasants don't like to hear that, but the truth is you criticize Mayweather for fighting the guys that Pacquiao runs to face once Floyd's beaten them.

One is a hunter. The other is a scavenger. One fights the highest ranked champions and contenders. While the other fights 5th ranked guys who have suffered the biggest loss of their careers within their last 2 fights.

Mayweather was #1 before Pacquiao, and judging by the quality of the competition he's faced, their rank and if they were coming off a win or not, Floyd is #1 right now.

Your 3rd world peasant arguments are as meaningful as pocket lint. You have nothing to say about the subject, so you attack the posters. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, one man doesn't define my people. One fight doesn't hold any glory for any American.

I have more to live for than whether some hype job fighter wins or not. This is how pathetic you and people like you are. You have nothing and you are nothing.

Why else spend so much time coming to a boxing website when you barely if ever discuss boxing? You simply comment about comments!

I'd suggest you get a life. Go buy yourself a rickshaw, make some money and maybe you can buy yourself some tail if your too pathetic to get some on your own. You clearly have way too much time if you can spend literally hours on a boxing website talking about everything BUT boxing.

This isn't just directed at your pathetic asss, Pacfan. This is directed at all little d!ck peasants who read on this site. All the sad souls who don't even watch boxing but worship Manny Pacquiao.

That's about 90% of this site.

Some of you are so desperate to seem important that you actually pay money for rep and other foolishness so finally you can win at something as pathetic as neg-repping people you disagree with.

LOL .. good luck with that. If that brings life to your otherwise sorry life, I hope you win in that aspect.

This is so true.

[SOPH~ REP.]

Shane got the fight and didnt want to fight soo waht does that tell you

[Toyman]

Stating the obvious there Shane.

Everybody knows it.

It took Floyd two years to even get the courage to say he wanted to fight Pacquiao but that was just for the cameras.

He even said that he only said Pacquiao was next because that is what his fans wanted to hear.

Boxing can be a dangerous sport and Floyd wants to leave it with his facutlies intact, maybe thats why he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao.

Obviously he can't admit that pubically because he would lose his money generating power.

Maybe in 20-30 years time Floyd will be able to speak the truth about not taking the Pacquiao fight.

this is the most logical interpretation. Mayweather doesnt want the fight as he fears getting his face turned into shredded wheat.

[Toyman]

I can easily explain it.

You just won't accept the truth because you're self worth is caught up in a sporting event.

I have no such hang ups. How ell Floyd does in a boxing match means nothing to Americans. How well ANY athlete does in any sport means little to any American unless they are betting. Its fun to root but we Americans don't predicate our worth on bull**** like that.

If Floyd never fights again he'll be rated leaps and bounds above Pacquiao. That would be because he's spent 15 years at the top, not 3-4 years at the top against men who were no longer ranked even in the top 3 any longer.

I know you little d!ck peasants don't like to hear that, but the truth is you criticize Mayweather for fighting the guys that Pacquiao runs to face once Floyd's beaten them.

One is a hunter. The other is a scavenger. One fights the highest ranked champions and contenders. While the other fights 5th ranked guys who have suffered the biggest loss of their careers within their last 2 fights.

Mayweather was #1 before Pacquiao, and judging by the quality of the competition he's faced, their rank and if they were coming off a win or not, Floyd is #1 right now.

Your 3rd world peasant arguments are as meaningful as pocket lint. You have nothing to say about the subject, so you attack the posters. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, one man doesn't define my people. One fight doesn't hold any glory for any American.

I have more to live for than whether some hype job fighter wins or not. This is how pathetic you and people like you are. You have nothing and you are nothing.

Why else spend so much time coming to a boxing website when you barely if ever discuss boxing? You simply comment about comments!

I'd suggest you get a life. Go buy yourself a rickshaw, make some money and maybe you can buy yourself some tail if your too pathetic to get some on your own. You clearly have way too much time if you can spend literally hours on a boxing website talking about everything BUT boxing.

This isn't just directed at your pathetic asss, Pacfan. This is directed at all little d!ck peasants who read on this site. All the sad souls who don't even watch boxing but worship Manny Pacquiao.

That's about 90% of this site.

Some of you are so desperate to seem important that you actually pay money for rep and other foolishness so finally you can win at something as pathetic as neg-repping people you disagree with.

LOL .. good luck with that. If that brings life to your otherwise sorry life, I hope you win in that aspect.

how are those pentacles doing?

[Vasyl’s dad]

how are those pentacles doing?

[D4thincarnation]

Are you serious when you write this?

Pac has been outboxed by a brawler and knocked out by D fighters. There's nothing special about a guy who is only willing to fight ONE TYPE OF FIGHTER.

Which Brawler outboxed Pacquiao? And SRR got beat by a brawler, so what does that prove. Pacquiao was a teenager when he KOed and serveily weight drained. Do you really think he is the same fight? You probably do.

Barrera, Morales, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley ... what do they ALL have in common?

NONE OF THEM ARE SLICK FIGHTERS!

And Baldomir, Ortiz are? What is a slick fighter? is a Slick fighter some how better than a so called brawler. Was Meldrick Taylor slick? Was JCC a Brawler?

All of those guys are the "stand and trade" type fighters who do not use the "hit without being hit" approach to boxing. Pacquiao excels against that type, but those fighters are not the only types of fighters that exist in boxing

.

Good so you expect Marquez to give Pacquiao a tough fight then, lets hope you give him his props should he win.

As I said recently in another thread, Marquez is NOT the slickest fighter in the world but he is ABSOLUTELY THEE SLICKEST FIGHTER THAT PACQUIAO HAS EVER FACED! Look what happened in both fights. Pacquiao's only moment in their first fight was in the first round. Pacquiao had even fewer moments in the second fight. Yet Pacquiao was saved by the judges BOTH times against a superior boxer who is not nearly as slick as some others.

Think you becoming too obsessed with slick. How many of the divisional No.1 would you consider slick. Glad you are looking forward to Marquez vs Pacquiao III should be a great fight, may the best man win.

Pacquiao, like most one dimensional fighters, won't do well against a slick fighter. The slick fighter doesn't even have to be that good.

What is Pacquiao's one dimension? Can you explain his style? Should be easy since he has only has one dimension. Name me your top 10 slick fighters of all time and lets see how many so called brawler beat them or at least did well against them.

In that other thread, I also referenced the fact that Erik Morales got completely dominated and outboxed by Zahir Raheem. It was uncanny. Morales, coming off a spectacular win over Pacquiao, seemed completely inept against the slick Raheem. Morales lost every single round in a 12 round fight, and the boxing world decided that it was just better for everyone to just not acknowledge what had just happened. Zahir was not offered the match with Pacquiao. Instead Morales was. Raheem wasn't put on any bull**** P4P lists. Instead Pacquiao was for beating the freshly defeated Morales.

Yeah the great Zahir Raheem, maybe if he could have won title at lightweight he would have gotten his chance. Guess you never seen the Raheem vs Morales fight. And Pacquiao said after Morales I he want a rematch anytime anywhere, not I want to fight Raheem. Pacquiao the first and still the only man to stop Morales and make a true warrior not want to fight anymore.

Pacquiao moved up, avoiding Raheem as if Raheem never existed because he knew the trouble that Zahir posed. Its the same thing Pacquiao did at 140lbs. Pacquiao avoided any slick boxers in favor of facing the recently knocked out brawler Ricky Hatton.

Yes moved up and faced a champion, not a guy that got KOed against the PED man Funeka or someone that lost to Juarez who lost to two of Pacquiao's victim's convincingly.

Slick boxers are a brawler's nightmare. Ask around, casual fight fans. See if I'm correct. Go watch Mayorga/Spinks. Go watch Alexander/Urango. Go watch Morales/Raheem. Go watch Roy Jones/Ruiz. Go watch Toney/Holyfield. Go watch Junior Jones/Barrera. Go watch Byrd/Tua or Byrd/Holyfield. Go watch Taylor/Lacey. Go watch Dirrell/Abraham. Go watch Dawson/Johnson or Dawson/Tarver.

Go watch Tyson vs Spinks, Johnson vs Jones jr, Alexander vs Bradley, Taylor vs Pavlik, Taylor vs Froch, Jones vs Ingle, Saddler vs Pep Ali vs Frazier.

In the other thread, I also went as far as to mention that Mayweather is slicker, faster, stronger and larger than Marquez. Marquez did most things right and outboxed Pacquiao in both fights. Now just imagine if Floyd does all the things Marquez did right and then some.

He also got put on his a$$ 4 times and has never beat Pacquiao. Marquez is also much more willing to engage, show much more heart and throws combinations and has the balls to step into the ring with Pacquiao.

There is no question that Floyd is a much superior boxer than Marquez, who is an elite talent himself. Marquez came back from being floored 3 times in the first round to get a draw. that means he had to box Pacquiao's asss off. If Marquez can do that, wait and see what size boot Floyd puts in Manny's asss.

Do you think Pacquiao is the same fighter that drew with Marquez, maybe Floyd is the same fighter that lost to Sanchez.

But all that you have written you have still managed to avoid the point of this thread, Why is Floyd ducking Pacquiao?

If Mayweather is so good and Pacquiao so average, then why duck him?

[The Big Dunn]

"I'll fight him first because I actually want the fight, and the fight goes to the guy that wants it"

Funny, when floyd wanted to fight SHane that didn't happen. Shane said no not once but twice. So how come when floyd wanted to fight shane it didn't happen?

ALso, Shane called out MAnny respectfully and classy and the fight didn't happen until Shane got his ass beat by floyd.

Reall SHane? Go ask your old ***** for your belts back nice and respectful and see if she gives them to you.

[hugh grant]

Floyd accepted those demands, pac didnt. What does that tell you in regard to who didnt want the fight very much?

Regardless of all that though, why shouldnt he look out for himself? Isnt that rule number 1 in life? Self preservation...

Do you disagree that better testing is good for boxing? Even if its only Floyds fights? Thats a start... Would you have the same stance and be calling pac a "ducker, coward" if Pac requested the testing and floyd declined?

Floyd can be interested in self preservation and dont fight, thats all he needs to do.
He has a reputation as a ducker already. Didnt fight Cotto and made a ton of excuses and hes doing it now with Pac also.

Its floyd who has to redeem himself and cant afford to be messing about at this late stage of his career.
You can defend Floyd as much as you want, but when all is sad and done, Floyd is left with the ducker reputation, and Pac is left with the FOTD reputation ringing in peoples ears.
Pacs giving Floyd the chance to prove to the world he is mistaken and not a ducker, and FLoyd throws the opportunity back in Pacs face.
Typical of floyd.