So wait...NOW Sergio is a bad pick for Floyd???

[4Corners]

it's not a bad fight. He gets mad props if he fights martinez.

my only thing would be if he waits for pacquiao or not.

he should wait till pac-jmm, assuming pac wins, negotiate. If they can't make the fight, go on with martinez. But the point is at least TRY to fight pacquiao.

Pacquiao is pretty much already set for a fight with Bradley next though. Anyone who thinks otherwise or actually believes the whole "Nothing is set in stone or guaranteed" crap needs to wake up. Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez ALL were in line to fight Pac way before the actual fight. Bradley is next for Pac, his best pick since Marquez in 2008 or Morales in 2005.

[Battle*Hardened]

Quit getting all upset about a couple fools. Your just feeding the fire.

[jrosales13]

Agreed. If it's at 150, Floyd won't get as much credit from me though. He would still get decent credit, but not as much if it was anywhere from 152-156. Sergio kind of f**ked himself over by even saying he'd go down to 150. I have no doubt he can make 150 and still be good, I would just rather see it at 154. Just have Sergio sign something that says he won't come in on fight night over 164 lbs (what Ortiz was on fight night). That'd be fair.

Nah...I disagree, I don't think you should have a re-hydration clause at all. I don't think that's fair at all. Because, that mean Martinez would have to focus on making weight back-to-back days.

[4Corners]

I think the fight would be awesome no matter what.And, if Floyd takes Martinez offer at 150, who can blame Floyd? It's Martinez the one who's offering it.

Agreed. If Pac fought Sergio at 150 (which is what he demanded), people would praise Pac all day long. I just won't give Floyd as much credit if it's at 150. If I had to grade it in terms of how much credit for each weight, I'd lay it out like this.

150 is a B.

152 is a B+, maybe an A- depending on what Sergio is on fight night.

154 is an A.

Anything above that is an A+ no doubt.

If it's at 150, it would still be a great fight, just won't get as much credit. If it's at 150, it still adds a lot to Floyd's legacy, especially since Sergio is seen as one of the bigger risks and better fighters in the world.

[cupocity303]

Nah...I disagree, I don't think you should have a re-hydration clause at all. I don't think that's fair at all. Because, that mean Martinez would have to focus on making weight back-to-back days.

Agreed, how is that fair?

Have a former Middleweight, drop down to Jr.Middleweight and can't rehydrate properly on top of that.

And you dare cry and complain with this thread in support of Floyd?

[Deevel916]

it's not a bad fight. He gets mad props if he fights martinez.

my only thing would be if he waits for pacquiao or not.

he should wait till pac-jmm, assuming pac wins, negotiate. If they can't make the fight, go on with martinez. But the point is at least TRY to fight pacquiao.

Amen! ...........

[Pocket Dogs!]

Sergio is a great fight for Floyd......at 154. I'm not going to give Floyd any credit if Sergio fights him at 150. If he fights Sergio at 150, he'd be almost as bad as Pac with these catchweights.

Pacquiao already has three catchweight fights:
Cotto (145)
Margarito (150)
Marquez (144)

Mayweather still only has one:
Marquez (144 changed to 146 at the last minute).

IMO, Floyd is still too small for Martinez. Martinez is just at an unfortunate place where he's too small for the big names at super middleweight and too big for the HUGE names at welterweight.

[4Corners]

Agreed, how is that fair?

Have a former Middleweight, drop down to Jr.Middleweight and can't rehydrate properly on top of that.

And you dare cry and complain with this thread in support of Floyd?

I was just saying what Lou Dibella said in an interview. He said they would actually be open to signing something like that. Either way, Sergio wouldn't come into the fight over 164 or so. His last fight, he weighed in at 159 and came into the fight at 164. If it's at 154, I would only see him rehdrating 5-6 lbs at the most.

[cupocity303]

Agreed. If Pac fought Sergio at 150 (which is what he demanded), people would praise Pac all day long. I just won't give Floyd as much credit if it's at 150. If I had to grade it in terms of how much credit for each weight, I'd lay it out like this.

150 is a B.

152 is a B+, maybe an A- depending on what Sergio is on fight night.

154 is an A.

Anything above that is an A+ no doubt.

If it's at 150, it would still be a great fight, just won't get as much credit. If it's at 150, it still adds a lot to Floyd's legacy, especially since Sergio is seen as one of the bigger risks and better fighters in the world.

Look at what you're saying. Whether you realize it or not, you're' basically depending on Sergio not being at his Physical best. Apparently him being at 160, or 154 but rehydrating too high, is a too much of a problem for Floyd?

I thought skills paid the bills, and Floyd didn't need guys being put at a disadvantage physically, in order to beat them.

It's not as if Sergio is a beast like Miranda physically. His game is movement and angles, just like Floyd's. The only thing that a fight at 154 or less does, is Martinez may end up being dehydrated just like Delahoya was when he fought Oscar, and end up having nothing on fight night.

[jrosales13]

Agreed, how is that fair?

Have a former Middleweight, drop down to Jr.Middleweight and can't rehydrate properly on top of that.

And you dare cry and complain with this thread in support of Floyd?

I agree, I mean I don't mind catch-weight...But, re-hydration clauses. I don't agree with that at all.

Funny thing is...That a lot of people are looking at the Floyd side.

But, lets look at Martinez side...Would Martinez get credit if he beat Floyd? I'm not sure how much credit I'm willing to give him if he does beat Floyd.