Rewatched Mayweather Marquez

[Chopper417]

Yes I have, but that has nothing to do with what we are discussing.

I've very politely asked you and other for examples of Pacquiao using his handspeed to overwhelm ANYONE in ANY fight.

I see NOT ONE EXAMPLE.

Pac is definitely explosive when closing the distance to land his jab, jab straight left.

But riddle me this:

If Pacquiao is sooooo fast, then how did Marquez counter him so often, but could do basically nothing against Floyd?

Timing is is definitely more useful than pure speed, but you must see something to have the reflexes to respond to something. When a fighter has elite handspeed, most of these guys don't see the punches coming. They get hit and try to respond.

That NEVER happens with Pacquiao.

How many other examples do you need?

I still haven't gotten even ONE from you guys.

Show me ANY fight where someone would say "That guys hands are as fast as *fill in the blank*".

Pacquiao is definitely explosive as I've already agreed, but that's when he is darting forward. It comes from out of nowhere and many boxers aren't prepared for it.

Keep in mind though that his entire resume reads as a "Who's Who" among the current plodders in boxing.

Again, don't take my word for it. Look it up. Also, don't take my word for Pacquiao's speed. Go watch his fights. you might be surprised to see for yourself that what I am saying is absolutely true.

If Pacquiao was as fast as some of you say, Erik Morales would NEVER have been able to have his way with Manny the way that he did without landing knockout blows.

You people can take sarcastic tones with me, but until you reexamine your current misconceptions, you're just yapping about sour g****s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKDhQBt4O_E

:33, no darting, no "nimbleness", no in out and darting, no lead jab....just in the pocket very fast straight left.

[johnm is...]

LOL!! and floyds opponents were all faster or equal to floyd in term of speed? i dont give a phuck what u guys say about manny but to say he havent show any sign that he has speed in any of his fights???? LMFAO!!!! i guess manny win his fights by knocking his opponents out since he doesnt have any speed LOL!!

Oh look. Another reply that had nothing to do with what you quoted.

The guy CLEARLY said that a better indication would be Floyd vs. Judah, rather than Floyd vs. Baldomir.

Continue proving why no one takes you serious.

[iNDOLiFER]

Floyd fough zab so we can get a better gauge of his speed because zab is as fast if not faster. Manny has yet to fight that type of opponent rom 145-150. Taking all the hate out of it, the point that manny's speed could be overated because of the nature of the opponents is I think a fair point. Doesn't mean manny is slow.

so floyd had to fight zab in order for u to determine that floyd is fast?? haha. as if u couldnt tell that floyd is fast just by watching his pass fights, watching him in training? he had to fight zab for u to say yup floyd is fast? lol.. and since manny havent showcase any of his speed since his opponents were pretty much tailor made for him then why the ped accusation bro?? i thought it was because manny moved up in weight in such a short period of time and was still able to carry over the same speed and quickness he has in the lower weight?

[iNDOLiFER]

Oh look. Another reply that had nothing to do with what you quoted.

The guy CLEARLY said that a better indication would be Floyd vs. Judah, rather than Floyd vs. Baldomir.

Continue proving why no one takes you serious.

i still dont get why u continue to respond to a pointless post?? do u like me or something? LOL.. notice how i never quoted u before but your always following me replying back to me?? are u lonely bro?? LOL!!

[johnm is...]

i still dont get why u continue to respond to a pointless post?? do u like me or something? LOL.. notice how i never quoted u before but your always following me replying back to me?? are u lonely bro?? LOL!!

Your ignorance stands out like a sore thumb. You clutter up every thread with any mention of Pacquiao with ignorance. It's hard not to notice.

Don't flatter yourself. You stand out for all the WRONG reasons.

[The Big Dunn]

so floyd had to fight zab in order for u to determine that floyd is fast?? haha. as if u couldnt tell that floyd is fast just by watching his pass fights, watching him in training? he had to fight zab for u to say yup floyd is fast? lol.. and since manny havent showcase any of his speed since his opponents were pretty much tailor made for him then why the ped accusation bro?? i thought it was because manny moved up in weight in such a short period of time and was still able to carry over the same speed and quickness he has in the lower weight?

What ped accusation? Its clear you don't undertsnad what I am saying.

[iNDOLiFER]

Oh look. Another reply that had nothing to do with what you quoted.

The guy CLEARLY said that a better indication would be Floyd vs. Judah, rather than Floyd vs. Baldomir.

Continue proving why no one takes you serious.

and i quoted him to asked him that question i posted above, i didnt quote him to reply to what he was talking about with the other guy, so before u reply to me make sure u read first.

[iNDOLiFER]

What ped accusation? Its clear you don't undertsnad what I am saying.

i understand what your saying, it looks like u dont understand what im trying to say.

[iNDOLiFER]

Your ignorance stands out like a sore thumb. You clutter up every thread with any mention of Pacquiao with ignorance. It's hard not to notice.

Don't flatter yourself. You stand out for all the WRONG reasons.

wow im flatter that u notice me.. usually when your trying to ignore a post u usually dont reply to it right??

[V.WEBB]

Everyone should have iNDOLiFER on their ignore list. Its should be a right of passage.