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  • Larry the boss
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    #61
    Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
    Hey, LX, well, it was...an experience...
    Yea it was ,i was very disappointed..would you like to see a rematch..and if not what would you like to see Dawson do next??are you locked on to be his trainer from now on?

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      #62
      john, your boy won by fouling Hopkins, you have to admit that.........Rockin'

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      • *Khan
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        #63
        Originally posted by Larryx2011
        Yea it was ,i was very disappointed..would you like to see a rematch..and if not what would you like to see Dawson do next??are you locked on to be his trainer from now on?
        Calm down Max Kellerman.

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          #64
          Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
          No idea...whatever happens happens...I dont stress out about it, when it happens, if it happens, then it gets dealt with. As for the punch stats, it was only the second round...CLEARLY the punch stats dont reflect the ring action as Chad was clearly winning according to my eyes, the three judges and Lederman, too, as well as to anyone who knows what they are looking at...but its irrelevant, it was WAY too early in the fight for it all to mean much at all...fights dont start start until the 5th round anyway...
          I agree, and traditionally Hopkins is also a slow starter, therefore there is no basis on saying that he was on his way of losing if only a few punches were landed. Even the fights that he lost, were close hard to score fights.

          I'll concede that he has a history of over-playing a foul, which maybe hindering his credibility on being HURT legitimately this time around, which I think he was. Either way it doesn't matter, it's all about California Commission procedure and rules, not what anyone thinks about B-Hop faking it or not faking it.

          Sidenote: According to public polls, the vast majority seems to think that the fight should be a No Contest. Even some who don't like Hopkins stated that.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Cupocity303
            I agree, and traditionally Hopkins is also a slow starter, therefore there is no basis on saying that he was on his way of losing if only a few punches were landed. Even the fights that he lost, were close hard to score fights.

            I'll concede that he has a history of over-playing a foul, which maybe hindering his credibility on being HURT legitimately this time around, which I think he was. Either way it doesn't matter, it's all about California Commission procedure and rules, not what anyone thinks about B-Hop faking it or not faking it.
            not really, he lost the roy jones and calzaghe fights clearly

            the toss'em ups where against fighters that fade big time(taylor and pascal)

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #66
              Originally posted by Larryx2011
              Yea it was ,i was very disappointed..would you like to see a rematch..and if not what would you like to see Dawson do next??are you locked on to be his trainer from now on?
              We seem to have a very good connection and because of things said and the vibe I get I'm VERY optomistic that we will remain as a team...

              Rock' N, Chad fouled him? When? When Hops thrust himself on his back and he removed him from his back? Hops ALWAYS sets a precedent in his fights and he tried to do it with CD and it backfired on him...moments earlier he fouled Chad by punching him several times on the hip when the ref wasnt able to see and in the first he BLATANTLY tried to headbutt Chad (that's illegal, too, I think)...

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                #67
                Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                We seem to have a very good connection and because of things said and the vibe I get I'm VERY optomistic that we will remain as a team...

                Rock' N, Chad fouled him? When? When Hops thrust himself on his back and he removed him from his back? Hops ALWAYS sets a precedent in his fights and he tried to do it with CD and it backfired on him...moments earlier he fouled Chad by punching him several times on the hip when the ref wasnt able to see and in the first he BLATANTLY tried to headbutt Chad (that's illegal, too, I think)...
                I know you will never admit it because I don't blame you for being loyal to your fighter.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ugh!
                  not really, he lost the roy jones and calzaghe fights clearly
                  Correction: He lost the Roy Jones fight clearly. But even that fight wasn't a Roy Jones Youtube Highlight type victory.

                  As far as Calzaghe, not only was it a "close", hard to score fight, BUT Hopkins won that fight and I've been through this countless times. You should've just kept your mouth shut on that one. I admit bias towards Calzaghe's Boxing style of fighting like a ***** punching his way out of spiderwebs. Hopkins landed the cleaner punches, knocked him down, and had less damage on his face. One judge had Hopkins winning.

                  ENough supportive evidence for me to see Hopkins as the winner. It's pretty much Mayweather-Castillo-esque. Say what you want.

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                  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by *Khan
                    I know you will never admit it because I don't blame you for being loyal to your fighter.
                    So it was a foul because YOU say so....and because hes my fighter and I agree with it it means that I agree BECAUSE he's my fighter???? That's how it always is? So to seem real I have to go against him?? No...I dont admit it because I dont believe it to be so...and, AGAIN, B-Hops did several illegal tactics moments earlier...lucky for us he wasnt able to inflict the intended damage...

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                      We seem to have a very good connection and because of things said and the vibe I get I'm VERY optomistic that we will remain as a team...

                      Rock' N, Chad fouled him? When? When Hops thrust himself on his back and he removed him from his back? Hops ALWAYS sets a precedent in his fights and he tried to do it with CD and it backfired on him...moments earlier he fouled Chad by punching him several times on the hip when the ref wasnt able to see and in the first he BLATANTLY tried to headbutt Chad (that's illegal, too, I think)...
                      so then what you are saying is that if somebody leans on you then you are allowed to push/thrown him to the canvas. I would have just busted Hopkins in the nutz. just because one man fouls another it does not give the fouled fighter the right to foul the other. Chad commited a foul against him which lead to Hopkins injury, the fight will be ruled a no-contest.

                      I know where you are coming from though. I was taught if he fouls you then foul him right back. But it's still a foul regardless of what might have lead to the incident..........Rockin'

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