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  • Russian Crushin
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    #31
    Originally posted by RavshinRicRude
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    If you can then why not make boxing a computerized sport? Why have a ref at all when you cant have instant replay making the decisions?

    For example in baseball they have replay for HRs only. Its either a homerun or its not, it decides a fact, not an opinion

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    • Elotero
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      #32
      Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3
      Instant replay will not help the sport, even if we use it, at the end of the day Prize fighting is a business in which loads of revenue is made.
      They could review it all we want them to it doesnt mean they are going to do whats right for the sport, they will only do whats right for them...
      Example, Mayweather is a nevada resident, who has gotten away with alot of **** out there, The judah Riot that was started by uncle Roger in which Roger choked Judah, the rules clearly state if a cornerman enters the contest during the round its an automatic DQ... That didnt happen, what ended up happening was Roger was ejected, suspended and fined, and Judah was also suspended and fined funny how that works right?
      The Ortiz fight, well #14 describes Floyds actions to the T Nevada doesnt give a **** its about bringing revenue to their city its not about the sport
      http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nac/NAC-4...l#NAC467Sec675
      I think you have your feelings a little mixed here man. Sounds like you have a love, hate relationship with boxing going on.

      Your statement though is wrong, Instant replay will help the sport, it wont help the businesses who are banking off certain guys winning, but it would help the sport definitely.

      It would make a more fair playing ground for the guys without clout like a Mayweather or a Pac.

      Now, would it help busted ass decision wins and hometown robberies? Not if there are no close knockdowns. But it would help in situations like Martinez/Cintron.

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      • CubanGuyNYC
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        #33
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        For what exactly should instant replay be used? You cant change judgement/opinion calls
        Judgements and opinions are based on what one perceives at a given moment. In sports, the action is often so fast that an official cannot reasonably take everything in. In boxing, you have only one ref; so the problem of speed is compounded by the angle the official happens to be viewing from at the moment.

        If a referee is given the ability to review his call using instant replay, he will sometimes see that his initial judgement or opinion was wrong. Things like low blows, legitimate knockdowns, illegitimate knockdowns, etc. can alter the outcome of a fight. If instant replay can remedy even some of those calls, it would've been worth it.

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        • Russian Crushin
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          #34
          Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
          Judgements and opinions are based on what one perceives at a given moment. In sports, the action is often so fast that an official cannot reasonably take everything in. In boxing, you have only one ref; so the problem of speed is compounded by the angle the official happens to be viewing from at the moment.

          If a referee is given the ability to review his call using instant replay, he will sometimes see that his initial judgement or opinion was wrong. Things like low blows, legitimate knockdowns, illegitimate knockdowns, etc. can alter the outcome of a fight. If instant replay can remedy even some of those calls, it would've been worth it.
          Honestly its just part of the game

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            #35
            Maybe for knockdowns. For instance, when Hopkins knocked down Pascal, and it was ruled a slip. That would have been a good spot to review it at the end of the round, and see if it was caused by a punch or slip.

            But it would have to be done by someone other than the ref, because he only has a minute in between rounds.

            Of course then you run into ref's getting pissed off because they're being over ruled.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              If you can then why not make boxing a computerized sport? Why have a ref at all when you cant have instant replay making the decisions?

              For example in baseball they have replay for HRs only. Its either a homerun or its not, it decides a fact, not an opinion
              It's human nature to resist change. Baseball, like boxing, has a long, storied tradition; sports like that are slower to evolve. The fact is, instant replay can be used to correct more blown calls in baseball than just missed home runs. I've seen enough examples of missed calls to justify, in my mind, the extended use of instant replay in baseball. The same goes with boxing.

              There's no doubt in my mind whatsoever that all sports will eventually involve technologically assisted officiating. It's right to use all methods at your disposal, as long as they're properly utilized.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                Honestly its just part of the game
                With that one statement you've said everything. You're a traditionalist. I can respect that. I've already made my own stance clear. All I'll add is that I don't like injustice and inaccuracy. There are differences of opinion that can never be corrected, like who won a particular round, or even a whole fight. But a slip called a knockdown, or a knockdown called a slip, that alters the outcome of any fight, is worth correcting in my book.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                  It's human nature to resist change. Baseball, like boxing, has a long, storied tradition; sports like that are slower to evolve. The fact is, instant replay can be used to correct more blown calls in baseball than just missed home runs. I've seen enough examples of missed calls to justify, in my mind, the extended use of instant replay in baseball. The same goes with boxing.

                  There's no doubt in my mind whatsoever that all sports will eventually involve technologically assisted officiating. It's right to use all methods at your disposal, as long as they're properly utilized.
                  Yes i agree

                  But look at baseball where each game averages 3+ hours and instant replay would only slow it down further and disrupt rhythm

                  Same in boxing, you only get 1 min in between rounds and you cant disrupt that rhythm for every litte thing or anything really

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by johnm
                    Maybe for knockdowns. For instance, when Hopkins knocked down Pascal, and it was ruled a slip. That would have been a good spot to review it at the end of the round, and see if it was caused by a punch or slip.

                    But it would have to be done by someone other than the ref, because he only has a minute in between rounds.

                    Of course then you run into ref's getting pissed off because they're being over ruled.
                    Yes but that is a judgement call. I thought it was caused by B-hop swarming and jumping om top of Chad

                    So having a reviewer change a refs judgement call to a judgement call of his own is simply wrong

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      Yes but that is a judgement call. I thought it was caused by B-hop swarming and jumping om top of Chad

                      So having a reviewer change a refs judgement call to a judgement call of his own is simply wrong
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      If you can then why not make boxing a computerized sport? Why have a ref at all when you cant have instant replay making the decisions?

                      For example in baseball they have replay for HRs only. Its either a homerun or its not, it decides a fact, not an opinion


                      See that below...........

                      try to think out of it.................

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