Time for Instant Replay in .....BOXING???

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It should be after the fight, it would work just fine. Ref scores a knockdown, then checks it after the fight that it wasn't a knockdown, changes the scores, and then reveal the score cards. I don't see how exactly would be the problem.

Instant replay should be used for Knockdowns and should probably be viewed at the end of the round when there would be the least disturbance. That way fighters know if they have suffered a 10-8 round or not straight away.

It would be good to have an official on the outside that reviews the replays during the fight and advises the referee between rounds or something.

Yeah, I agree with having the boxers know a round or two after. The boxers need to know ASAP to adjust their fight plan accordingly.

Don't they already have a backup ref ringside? I thought I've seen situations where something happened to the inside the ring ref and someone was able to substitute in right away. The sub ref can be the one seeing the replays that we already see in between rounds, then tell the main referee about it.

I don't see it being such a huge burden financially if it's only used for big championship/ppv fights. I think of it like in tennis, where in the grand slam events they only have shotspot/hawkeye on the big show courts.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Instant replay will not help the sport, even if we use it, at the end of the day Prize fighting is a business in which loads of revenue is made.
They could review it all we want them to it doesnt mean they are going to do whats right for the sport, they will only do whats right for them...
Example, Mayweather is a nevada resident, who has gotten away with alot of **** out there, The judah Riot that was started by uncle Roger in which Roger choked Judah, the rules clearly state if a cornerman enters the contest during the round its an automatic DQ... That didnt happen, what ended up happening was Roger was ejected, suspended and fined, and Judah was also suspended and fined funny how that works right?
The Ortiz fight, well #14 describes Floyds actions to the T Nevada doesnt give a **** its about bringing revenue to their city its not about the sport

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nac/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec675

[CubanGuyNYC]

Instant replay will not help the sport, even if we use it, at the end of the day Prize fighting is a business in which loads of revenue is made.
They could review it all we want them to it doesnt mean they are going to do whats right for the sport, they will only do whats right for them...
Example, Mayweather is a nevada resident, who has gotten away with alot of **** out there, The judah Riot that was started by uncle Roger in which Roger choked Judah, the rules clearly state if a cornerman enters the contest during the round its an automatic DQ... That didnt happen, what ended up happening was Roger was ejected, suspended and fined, and Judah was also suspended and fined funny how that works right?
The Ortiz fight, well #14 describes Floyds actions to the T Nevada doesnt give a **** its about bringing revenue to their city its not about the sport
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nac/NAC-4...l#NAC467Sec675

You make a good point. I don't think for a single moment that instant replay would end corruption in boxing, but the rule would be a positive step toward more just outcomes. It would be much more difficult for an official to play dumb when there's blatant video proof.

[Check_hooks]

Theres gonna be instant replay in the Pac-Marquez fight for the first time ever. I think its only for knockdowns tho but its a start

[CubanGuyNYC]

I remember reading an article a few months ago saying that Pacquiao vs. Marquez III will be the first boxing event to utilize instant replay.

Anyone recall?

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...instant+replay

Thanks for reminding me. Here's an excerpt from an ESPN.com article, dated Oct. 30, 2009:

Instant Replay Making Debut in Nevada

By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
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The referees working promoter Don King's boxing card at Treasure Island Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas on Saturday night will be able to utilize instant replay for the first time if necessary.

"This will be the first one," said Keith Kizer, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. "The regulation became official on Tuesday. Of all of our regulatory changes, the most newsworthy thing is instant replay. This will be the first boxing card in Nevada where the referees can use instant replay."

In August, the Nevada commission, the most authoritative in the United States, adopted some rules changes, one of which was a 5-0 vote approving the use of limited instant replay for boxing and mixed martial arts bouts.

However, it took until this week for the change to be formally approved by Nevada's Legislative Counsel Bureau and officially added to the commission rulebook.

Bantamweight titlist Joseph Agbeko defends his belt against mandatory challenger Yonnhy Perez in the main event and Antonio DeMarco faces Jose Alfaro for a vacant interim lightweight title in the Showtime-televised co-feature, although every bout on the card is eligible for replay use.

Kizer said replay use is "completely at the discretion of the referee. The corners and promoters can yell all they want, but nobody can make the referee use replay. It's up to him."

When the referee can use replay is also limited in scope.

"It can only be used to review something when a fight is stopped due to an injury," Kizer said. "They can only use it to review what caused that fight-ending injury. If you do see replay used, it will probably be either to determine if a clash of heads or a punch caused the end of the fight. There are times when we'll see a big cut open up and a fight is immediately stopped. The referee can use replay to determine if it was caused by a butt or a punch."

The other likely scenario in which replay could be employed would be if a punch caused the end of a fight but it was unclear if the punch landed before or after the bell.

Kizer pointed out that if a fighter was cut early in a round, after which the referee makes an immediate ruling on how it happened, and that injury forced the bout to be stopped later in the round or even a few rounds later, it could not be reviewed.

"It has to be immediate," Kizer said.

Replay also will not be used to determine if a knockdown was caused by a punch or was a slip.

If there is no definitive video evidence showing what caused a fight-ending injury, the referee's original call will stand, just like when a referee makes a call in the NFL.

"If the instant replay is unclear, the play stands and you're in no worse shape than you were without having it," Kizer said. "It can only be a positive thing."

For the full article, hit this link: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4610011

Unfortunately for Bernard Hopkins, California hasn't yet implemented the same rule. I any case, the precedent has already been set; instant replay is already making its way into the game.

[oc9979]

I remember reading an article a few months ago saying that Pacquiao vs. Marquez III will be the first boxing event to utilize instant replay.

Anyone recall?

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...instant+replay

http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-na...instant-replay

Pacquiao vs Cotto was going to be the first one. That what I read

Yeah, I agree with having the boxers know a round or two after. The boxers need to know ASAP to adjust their fight plan accordingly.

Don't they already have a backup ref ringside? I thought I've seen situations where something happened to the inside the ring ref and someone was able to substitute in right away. The sub ref can be the one seeing the replays that we already see in between rounds, then tell the main referee about it.

I don't see it being such a huge burden financially if it's only used for big championship/ppv fights. I think of it like in tennis, where in the grand slam events they only have shotspot/hawkeye on the big show courts.

Second ref. should be a good a idea.

[CubanGuyNYC]

(The following is an excerpt from an article by Michael Woods on ESPN.com, concerning the Hopkins-Dawson aftermath. Woods interviews California State Athletic Commission executive officer George Dodd and, among other things, asks him if he would support instant replay in boxing.)

Dodd was asked if he thought Russell made the right call on fight night.

"My opinion is not the one that counts; that's what he called," he said. "We're privileged to see the video replay a thousand times, he's not. He sees it in a fraction of a second."

ESPN.com asked for contact information in order to ask Russell how he came to his decision, but Dodd said no, that the commission's policy in situations such as this, when an appeal may well be forthcoming, is to shield the referee from media interrogation.

"We don't allow officials to make comments while appeals processes are potentially occurring. This is to protect the ref, and is done so the appeal or protest can be carried out properly," Dodd said. "There's nothing to gain for a referee. … There's no reason to open him to scrutiny."

Dodd may well have been flashing back to the night of Aug. 13 at the Hard Rock in Las Vegas, when referee Russell Mora got the third degree from Showtime reporter Jim Gray, who asked the ref how he missed so many obvious low blows thrown by Abner Mares against Joseph Agbeko during their bantamweight title fight. Mora didn't acquit himself well in the exchange, as he was unable to defend himself against video shown to him that clearly showed Mares felling Agbeko with a groin shot, which Mora deemed a legal knockdown blow.

Dodd was asked if he would like to see boxing adopt some rules for instant replay to aid officials when things get murky.

"I will support instant replay if it's done right," Dodd said, adding that he would need the frequency and terms of instant replay use to be clearly spelled out.

For the full article, click here: http://espn.go.com/boxing/blog/_/nam...ns-chad-dawson

[Russian Crushin]

For what exactly should instant replay be used? You cant change judgement/opinion calls

[extracurRICular]

For what exactly should instant replay be used? You cant change judgement/opinion calls

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[Elotero]

Based on the last two major PPV ending in "controversy" and countless other fight that leave you wondering...........

is it time for instant replay in boxing??? how can it work in this sport??? any ideas???

How would it be implemented? No ****ing clue.

Would it be useful? Hell yes.

Danny Perez got robbed by Jesse Brinkley a long time ago of a KD body shot that got counted as a low blow. Instant replay would have fixed that.

Sergio Martinez wouldn't have gotten a draw with Cintron, he would have a KO.

Many other cases. I would be interested in hearing them, these are just the few that come to mind.

Good thread!