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  • Gonzalez_Boxing
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    #41
    Originally posted by North Star
    Man, a bunch of haters in here. The proper thing for Chad to do would have been to hold and let the ref break up the fighters and warn Hopkins for leaning, if it was even merited. Chad is a ***** for acting like he actually ko'd Hopkins after the fight. That was pretty pathetic.
    Someone with some common sense here. A lot of members all of a sudden acting like it's the first time they've seen a fighter lean against another fighter. It might be a frustrating position to be in, but you are correct, the best thing for Dawson to do, would have been to let the ref break them up.

    Even my kids questioned why Dawson was raising his hands after the fight. Just another **** night for boxing fans. I'm just happy I didn't pay for it.

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    • sdcluser
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      #42
      I fault BHop for not using Ensure and taking Glucosamine + Calcium supplement before the fight.

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      • Drunken Cat
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        #43
        Originally posted by OldMoney91
        it obviously is. GBP just paid off the doctor to save face. Dislocated the shoulder from a little fall like that?

        most of the contact was absorbed by his legs and back. Its not like he fell right on his shoulder. Its not the 1st time Hopkins fakes an injury. He faed having a concussion from a lil tap on the back of the head agaisnt Roy Jones too
        I see, the document is not actually a forgery, but is a genuine document. It is however a case of bribery whereby the doctor was paid to falsely diagnose a fictitious injury. Very interesting insights, what a service it is to have so many muckrakers like your self on the board to reveal the truth.

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        • Drunken Cat
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          #44
          The only lingering doubt I have though was that you seemed to suggest it was a forgery, since it was released by GBP/Hopkins themselves, but then you promptly changed your story to suggest bribery when it was revealed (by me) that only the patient themselves are at a liberty to reveal such information. It is important for muckraking citizen journalists, such as yourself, to exhibit consistency, lest you undermine your own position. Just food for thought.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Dan-O-Mac
            Someone with some common sense here. A lot of members all of a sudden acting like it's the first time they've seen a fighter lean against another fighter. It might be a frustrating position to be in, but you are correct, the best thing for Dawson to do, would have been to let the ref break them up.

            Even my kids questioned why Dawson was raising his hands after the fight. Just another **** night for boxing fans. I'm just happy I didn't pay for it.
            Did you explain to your kids that doing what Hopkins did is illegal and that hes known for dirty fighting and acting like hes hurt?

            Did you explain to them that constant leaning on your opponent drains them of their energy which is critical in fights?

            What Chad did wasn't the most fair thing to do, but lets not act like Bernard is the saint here.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Truth
              To be honest from the replay it doesn't look like Hopkins intentionally jumped on Dawson. It looked like he lost his balance after missing the punch he threw. And then Dawson threw him off his back. This might very well have been two unintentional fouls.
              His foot was way off the ground, he literally hopped onto Dawson after missing

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              • SirTomJones
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                #47
                Bernard Hopkins is terrible for acting;/faking.

                Jumping out of the ring against Allen, faking against Calzaghe and Jones Jr and now this.

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                • Drunken Cat
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Lean On Me
                  Did you explain to your kids that doing what Hopkins did is illegal and that hes known for dirty fighting and acting like hes hurt?

                  Did you explain to them that constant leaning on your opponent drains them of their energy which is critical in fights?

                  What Chad did wasn't the most fair thing to do, but lets not act like Bernard is the saint here.
                  To me, it is pretty clear that Dawson was acting in retaliation. As you say, Dawson wasn't really in the right, but Hopkins is certainly not a saint.

                  However, the relevant question pertains to the official result of the fight, e.g. the "TKO victory" for Dawson, which was very clearly improper (imho). There is plenty to be said of the various circumstances surrounding this fight, but the question at hand is really about the official result.

                  And just my take, but I was very disgusted by Dawson's post-fight conduct. Again, that was just my perception.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sir TomJones
                    Bernard Hopkins is terrible for acting;/faking.

                    Jumping out of the ring against Allen, faking against Calzaghe and Jones Jr and now this.
                    I know, right. And for GBP to payoff an ER doctor to fabricate an injury diagnosis is really something else.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Nodogoshi
                      The only lingering doubt I have though was that you seemed to suggest it was a forgery, since it was released by GBP/Hopkins themselves, but then you promptly changed your story to suggest bribery when it was revealed (by me) that only the patient themselves are at a liberty to reveal such information. It is important for muckraking citizen journalists, such as yourself, to exhibit consistency, lest you undermine your own position. Just food for thought.
                      I never even mentionned forgery. You did. Maybe you just misunderstood what i said. And even then it doesnt make a big difference. I said that i wanted an official document that wasnt posted by Hopkins representent or GBP.

                      My point was that obviously Hopkins and company weren't gonna report that there was no injury and that Hopkins could have continued the fight.
                      Last edited by OldMoney91; 10-16-2011, 02:04 PM.

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