Boxing fan ask Breadman "Would Pac beat Hearns, Leonard, Duran & Trinidad?"

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  • Cash Cow
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    #61
    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
    You don't have to be a pressure fighter to apply a lot of pressure.

    Just look at how Dirrell applied a ton of pressure on Abraham when they fought.

    Manny's pressure is fight dependent....meaning he will crank up his volume and pressure given the opponent.
    He said Manny would "pressure" and beat him Ray Leonard.....come on. Manny @ 147 is not faster, more skilled or more powerful than a prime Ray Leonard.

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    • Hallaqsillaq
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      #62
      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
      Yes I absolutely believe he demolishes Vargas.
      I'm not seeing it.

      Vargas was a damn good fighter.

      Demolish is a very strong word.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Cash Cow
        He said Manny would "pressure" and beat him Ray Leonard.....come on. Manny @ 147 is not faster, more skilled or more powerful than a prime Ray Leonard.
        These guys are nuts man...

        Manny > All WW, ever, apparently.

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          #64
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          Best analysis in this thread. Hearns and Leonard and even Tito are just too damn big for Pac @ WW. Duran would be a pretty close war, Duran takes it though.
          Of course he losses to Tito, Leonard, and Hearns at WW. One can talk about all the skills and power they want. But, they're just too big for Pac. It's not fair to match Pac with any ATG WW's who are natural WW's. Pac is not a natural WW. It is ****** to even discuss such a fantasy match up.

          The only one that's close to Pac size. Is Duran, so this match up can be talked about IMO. Now at 135, Duran was just much more of a superior fighter. Pac is a special fighter whether people like to admitted or not. But, Duran was more special as a fighter. Not only was Duran as good if not a better offensive machine than Pac. But, he mixed in defense and counter punching with his offense. Which would be enough to get him by Pac.

          At 135, I see it as a war but not a close war. I think Duran wins it pretty handily might even stop Pac. At 147 though I see it as a very close war, where Duran wins a decision.

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            #65
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Of course he losses to Tito, Leonard, and Hearns at WW. One can talk about all the skills and power they want. But, they're just too big for Pac. It's not fair to match Pac with any ATG WW's who are natural WW's. Pac is not a natural WW. It is ****** to even discuss such a fantasy match up.

            The only one that's close to Pac size. Is Duran, so this match up can be talked about IMO. Now at 135, Duran was just much more of a superior fighter. Pac is a special fighter whether people like to admitted or not. But, Duran was more special as a fighter. Not only was Duran as good if not a better offensive machine than Pac. But, he mixed in defense and counter punching with his offense. Which would be enough to get him by Pac.

            At 135, I see it as a war but not a close war. I think Duran wins it pretty handily might even stop Pac. At 147 though I see it as a very close war, where Duran wins a decision.
            Sensible post.

            People forget Duran lasted all fight with and taunted Hagler.

            That's right HAGLER. You think Manny would have even stepped in the ring with that monster? No way in hell.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
              Another delusional fan...

              Trinidad lost to Hopkins and Winky. Hopkins being a former LHW and ATG and Winky being, well Winky.

              The Roy fight was merely an exhibition match and check cashing night for both of them.
              well, it's a fantasy fight, i can see pacquiao getting that straight left in picture perfect

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                #67
                I actually think his best chance would obviously be against Duran. The rest of those guys are massive compared to Pacquiao.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ugh!
                  well, it's a fantasy fight, i can see pacquiao getting that straight left in picture perfect
                  Sure he's going to get some in.

                  Hopkins got some in. Plenty of em. And Tito fell in what? The 12th. From a combination of exhaustion and the pummeling Hopkins was dishing out.

                  Hopkins is not a KO artist, but he's a full fledged MW.

                  I don't see Tito being KO'd by Pac, sorry.

                  Even in a fantasy fight you gotta tell it like it is..

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
                    Sensible post.

                    People forget Duran lasted all fight with and taunted Hagler.

                    That's right HAGLER. You think Manny would have even stepped in the ring with that monster? No way in hell.
                    I would be disappointed in Hagler if he got in the ring with Pac. Why would he get in the ring such a small fighter like Pac?

                    Anyways, if people want to match Pac in fantasy fights. They should do it against guys more his size, like a Duran, Whitaker, Sanchez, JCC, Arguello, Pryor etc etc...Not natural ATG WW's or MW's.

                    BTW, I think he beats Arguello and Pryor, maybe even JCC. But, those type of match ups are much fair for Pac.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      I would be disappointed in Hagler if he got in the ring with Pac. Why would he get in the ring such a small fighter like Pac?

                      Anyways, if people want to match Pac in fantasy fights. They should do it against guys more his size, like a Duran, Whitaker, Sanchez, JCC, Arguello, Pryor etc etc...Not natural ATG WW's or MW's.

                      BTW, I think he beats Arguello and Pryor, maybe even JCC. But, those type of match ups are much fair for Pac.
                      True.

                      But that's why Duran is so great in history's eyes.

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