Keith Kizer: "Mayweather was AGAINST petitioning the commision for OSDT"

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  • hanzoh74
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    #111
    Originally posted by CONQUERING
    I love it how Manny only wants to follow the commission (NSAC) when it suits him. NSAC also imposes their OWN weight penalties on overweight fighters....but Manny consistently goes ABOVE and BEYOND them and imposes his OWN weight penalties on fighters. Its laughable. But get this, one day its, "Manny agreed to no cut off dates!!" The next day its, "Manny will ONLY do what the commission says!!!" Comical.
    Man! u *****s i think which was 1-5% of the boxing fans are the only one who believed the **** that it was Pac who avoided the fight. Even ***** knows ur hero ducked Pac so STFU!

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    • Toyman
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      #112
      Originally posted by CONQUERING
      LOL. I can't help but laugh at your posts. And this will be final response to this. In the summer of 2010, Manny was still requesting a cut off, a 14 day one when he knew that Mayweather wanted full testing with no cut offs. Well, why did Mayweather now want full testing, you are asking yourself? Because that was the original protocol of the testing ANYWAYS and the original 14 day offer was made....get this...in a last ditch effort to save the fight, however, Manny rejected that offer and fought Clottey to the cheers of a lot of his fans... nothing you say or what anyone else says that will change that.
      And i can't help but laugh at your post:

      I asked: So it's obvious that mayweather ruined the 2nd negotiation.

      Your answer: Pacquiao ducked the test in the first negotiation and thats why mayweather changed the goalposts in the 2nd.

      Not only is your answer avoiding the issue, but its wrong: Pac was perfectly fine with random blood/urine tests done by the commision.

      But i will take the avoidance as a "yes, mayweather went on vacation after pac agreed to all the terms"

      Hint: Your answer should have somehow addressed how "You have to ask Floyd Mayweather why he doesnt want the fight" is an inaccurate statement.





      Uh....yea. It is a much better agency than the one that failed to catch Shane Mosley. And please, there really isn't any use in arguing who has the better testing between the two.
      Lol, well if its so much better how could they let a high profile gold medal winner get away with it? :O

      Of course, NSAC does not have the funding to do it in their standard tests, but they did say with the extra funding they could pretty much replicate what usada does...hence why even mayweather's promoter agreed with it.




      I didn't forget nothing. Floyd wanted more stringent drug testing. Simple as that. Again, what's the issue?
      You didn't forget? I didn't see mayweather asking for USADA testing until december 2009 :O He was fine fighting marquez with the standard test in september 2009.

      Go do some research




      Really dude, really? Man, did you read ANYTHING I've said? This has already been addressed in my previous posts.
      Umm..yes i did, and i ask: Why bring in another testing agency which has already had cheaters pass the test when the NSAC is willing to do the unlimited tests and mayweather has had no problems with it for the last 15 years? Even Richard Schaefer agreed to it (yes, mayweather's promoter deemed it acceptable)






      LOL. Here is where you are wrong, buddy. Don't just sprout off and not know what you're talking about. Marion Jones didn't do the USADA testing when she won all those golds in the 2000 Sydney Olympics. Because USADA didn't get started until AFTER the Olympics of 2000. Then, when they tested her in the 04 Olympic games....she came home medal-less...again, think about it...and do your research.
      So USADA started in 01, but it took an accusation from victor conte and a urine test performed in 06 to catch her? :O

      Perhaps you need to do the research lol.

      Not to mention, Mayweather style testing has pretty much already been exposed as near-useless.




      Typical response for when theres no comeback, but i dont blame you..i dont think i would be able to deny that myself lol.



      Yea..we're done here.
      Yup, glad to see you are accepting the truth.




      I addressed this above, learn to do some research before posting.
      See above: Clearly, it's you that needs to do teh research im afraid.
      Last edited by Toyman; 10-12-2011, 09:04 PM.

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      • mrjoeblive
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        #113
        Originally posted by CONQUERING
        This concept has flown clear over his/her head and I'm done discussing it.
        your 100% right! its a moot point they are actually trying to say pac wants the test and floyd does not. these dudes are just a little bit silly IMO. why not say lets get the testing done and get on with the fight? its like they know he is on something and their ok with that. one ******* even said " so what all the fighters that have used peds lost" as if that makes it ok to use drugs to help you in a fight. and as usual he was wrong. shane didnt lose that second fight to oscar. and you can bet if oscar could have he would have had that loss set aside on the grounds of drug use. but your right they just dont get it.

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        • dldwizard
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          #114
          at *****s trying to uplift other *****s morale.. then we got greenburg.. now we got kizer.. who's next? we know it won't be pac cause floyd don't want no one putting words in his mouth..
          Last edited by dldwizard; 10-12-2011, 09:38 PM.

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          • brick wall
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            #115
            floyd did not want to petition nsac during that time because they were already in talks with travis tygart. they already have a plan even before the testing demand was brought up. tygart even acted like floyd's henchman by publicly criticizing the drug testing in proboxing for no apparent purpose except that he already started to ally himself with floyd's team.

            look what keith kizer had to say about tygart...

            Unfortunately, then Mr. Tygart goes off on a tangent, goes out there and starts bashing everybody publicly—I guess to try to raise his own stock. I don’t think that helped anybody unfortunately. We still want to work with them in an advisory role type situation if possible. If he called me today, I’d definitely take the call.”

            see even nsac is willing to work with usada if only there was a joint petition from both pac's and floyd's team. unfortunately, only one side is willing.

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            • mrjoeblive
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              #116
              Originally posted by pasawayako
              again they're expose that all they want is only what's better for floyd not for boxing.
              hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!!!!!!!! now floyd fans dont want better testing. this after *******s went from "if the commish dont test for it its not needed." and "floyd is not the commish" and "if he didnt ask for ost in his other fight why now" and floyd is not the commish" you guys are silly just plain silly. and a direct contradiction of fact. back and forth with taylor made facts and custom made truths.manny does not want to take the test!! fact. he went from 8 reasons all flimsy as to why he couldnt take the test. and *******s backed everlast one of his silly reasons up. now you want to say floyd dont want the test. and why, because he didnt want to waste time PETITIONING NSAC who already said the cost factor was to much for them and they would have to follow wada anyway. so this is a supreme waste of time talking to dudes that now want to change documented history to say pac has always wanted the ost.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haa oh man my stomach hurts from laughing at this comedy hour. watch out D.L.HUGHLEY

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              • Toyman
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                #117
                Originally posted by Body Movin'
                here comes the pinoy lounge cornball crew to clean up after toyman.
                and here you are trying to redirect a thread whcih is heading in a direction you obviously dont like. why is that?

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                • Toyman
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                  hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!!!!!!!! now floyd fans dont want better testing. this after *******s went from "if the commish dont test for it its not needed." and "floyd is not the commish" and "if he didnt ask for ost in his other fight why now" and floyd is not the commish" you guys are silly just plain silly. and a direct contradiction of fact. back and forth with taylor made facts and custom made truths.manny does not want to take the test!! fact. he went from 8 reasons all flimsy as to why he couldnt take the test. and *******s backed everlast one of his silly reasons up. now you want to say floyd dont want the test. and why, because he didnt want to waste time PETITIONING NSAC who already said the cost factor was to much for them and they would have to follow wada anyway. so this is a supreme waste of time talking to dudes that now want to change documented history to say pac has always wanted the ost.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haa oh man my stomach hurts from laughing at this comedy hour. watch out D.L.HUGHLEY

                  lol trying to divert attention away from your last post where you clearly showed you had no idea what you were talking about.

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                  • American Dream
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                    perhaps you dont understand. NSAC stated they dont do that type of testing. and if all agreed, then why is there a problem? why even petition the NSAC when there is a capable body that has expertise and can do a better job. this is just a smoke screen to duck the test.
                    THIS.

                    Originally posted by Body Movin'
                    here comes the pinoy lounge cornball crew to clean up after toyman.
                    lmao......

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                    • Rolaz
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                      #120
                      If you want to face reality then:

                      Go and verify what those USA Boxing Authorities found out in all of Pacman's past fight, inside USA. verify their test results, in accordance with the existing Professional Boxing Rules and Regulation concerning Drug Testing.

                      Check the credibility of Pacman's Trainer, is he one of those Best Trainer?why is it, that he was chosen "Trainer of the Year" for the record 4th times?

                      Did the Critics ever visited Pacman during his Training? Did they ever interview his past sparring Partners?; Did they ever interview his Physical conditioning Coach?

                      In the end, it's not about Random Blood Test, it's about bloated ego, avoiding the fight of the current #1P4P & Fighter of the Decade -Pacman.

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