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  • Leo Pradun
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    #111
    Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
    Since 2000, Vitali is 0-2 against the top two fighters he's faced.

    Aside from that, his most note worthy wins are over Larry Donald and Kirk Johnson.

    That's not underrated in the least.

    With the amount of acclaim that gets thrown at him since winning a vacated title against an old and out of shape Corrie Sanders and defending it once against Danny Williams, he's definatly OVER rated.

    He's lost to the two best fighters he's faced, and has beat some average fighters.

    Again, the frequent

    "Well who could beat him now"

    is a Nut Hugger favorite.

    Asking a hypothetical question and acting like that proves your case in compairison to the critisisms I mentioned above is pretty weak.

    We won't know who could beat him until he fights the best fighters avaialable. Sanders and Williams were fringe contenders, and Rahman isn't even top 5.

    Vitali is one of four title holders at the moment, and still needs to prove himself before he's anywhere near deserving of the hype that currently surrounds him.
    fat outta shape sanders, where were the rest of the so called good boxers at around that time? Nobody wanted to step up so stop with that fat outta shape sanders ****, I know its ur opinion but its way to one sided.And again Rahman is Klitschko mandatory that means that he is rated 1 in the wbc as the challanger so Klitschko has to fight him. I think its a lil too much hating....

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    • Leo Pradun
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      #112
      Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
      Yes, Vitali losing to Lewis and having his face re aranged sure validates your "best since 2000" point.





      So in the last 23 months, Corrie Sanders and Danny Williams were all that was out there to fight?



      Again, he hasn't beat anyone that warrents proclaiming him great or 'the best'.
      I say again where was everyone else????

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      • Bozo_no no
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        #113
        Originally posted by Leo Pradun
        fat outta shape sanders, where were the rest of the so called good boxers at around that time? Nobody wanted to step up so stop with that fat outta shape sanders ****, I know its ur opinion but its way to one sided.And again Rahman is Klitschko mandatory that means that he is rated 1 in the wbc as the challanger so Klitschko has to fight him. I think its a lil too much hating....

        It's not hatefull in the least to point out to clowns that say Vitali Klitschko is a "great" fighter, or "the best of this era" or the "best of the milennium"

        He's lost to the two best fighters he's ever fought, has Larry Donald and Kirk Johnson as the hilights on his resume, and at current, of the four titles holders, he won his belt against a fringe contender and has defended in once agaisnt another fringe contender.

        You, like the other nut huggers, just don't like to hear the truth.

        It upsets you, and I understand that. That's what makes you Nut Huggers.
        Last edited by Bozo_no no; 10-30-2005, 05:40 PM.

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        • blockhead
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          #114
          Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
          It's not hatefull in the least to point out to clowns that say Vitali Klitschko is a "great" fighter, or "the best of this era" or the "best of the milennium"

          He's lost to the two best fighters he's ever fought, has Larry Donald and Kirk Johnson as the hilights on his resume, and at current, of the four titles holders, he won his belt against a fringe contender and has defended in once agaisnt another fringe contender.

          You, like the other nut huggers, just don't like to hear the truth.

          It upsets you, and I understand that. That's what makes you Nut Huggers.
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          • j
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            #115
            vitali is not a great fighter? he looks pretty damn good to me. this is coming from a guy who spars higher weight classes on a regular basis and having been trained in martial arts for 10 plus years. i have experience to back me up. should be officially competing in the ring in the following year or so.

            a lot of vitali's skills are subtle, so you're average boxing fan will not be able to detect some of the skills he's exhibited. especially if they have no experience fighting.

            and, for the last time, you can't blame vk on his opponents. many fighters have ducked him throughout the years. and there doesn't seem to be much comp out there anyways. remember, his bro wlad had 11 fighters turn down a fight with him until corrie sanders got the guts to fight him.

            too much shallow thinking going on here.

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            • Leo Pradun
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              #116
              Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
              You don't get it.

              When Kirk Johnson and Larry Donald are the HIGH POINTS on your resume, it's a weak one.

              And you can make whatever excuses you want, Lewis and Byrd are the two best fighters he's fought, and he LOST both fights.

              So AGAIN, he's LOST to the two best fighters he's faced, and has his crowning achievment wins over Larry Donald and Kirk Johnson.

              That's meidocrity.

              There is still room to improve, but fighting two fringe contenders in nearly two years and then following it up with a fight against Rahman really leaves the clock ticking.

              At 34 years old with the resume he has, the only way he comes even close to having someone using the word 'great' in regards to him as a fighter is if he steps up and unifies the titles.

              Sugar coating his past doesn't work. It is what it is, and the only thing that's going to make a case for him being anything more than an average title holder is if he makes some noise in the next few years.
              are u ****** dude? Rahman is Klitschkos mandatory....

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              • Bozo_no no
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                #117
                Originally posted by j
                vitali is not a great fighter? he looks pretty damn good to me. this is coming from a guy who spars higher weight classes on a regular basis and having been trained in martial arts for 10 plus years. i have experience to back me up. should be officially competing in the ring in the following year or so.

                a lot of vitali's skills are subtle, so you're average boxing fan will not be able to detect some of the skills he's exhibited. especially if they have no experience fighting.

                and, for the last time, you can't blame vk on his opponents. many fighters have ducked him throughout the years. and there doesn't seem to be much comp out there anyways. remember, his bro wlad had 11 fighters turn down a fight with him until corrie sanders got the guts to fight him.

                too much shallow thinking going on here.

                The only shallow thinking is that which allows the word "great" to be thrown around so freely.

                Again, I don't see how hard this is to digest:

                His biggest career wins are over Larry Donald and Kirk Johnson.

                If that's your standart for being a "Great" fighter, you have some low standards.

                He might be "great" compared to you and I, but in Heavyweight Boxing history, the word "Great" is not the least bit applicable to Vitali Klitschko at this point.

                Trying to argue otherwise would be shallow thinking.

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                • Leo Pradun
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                  It's not hatefull in the least to point out to clowns that say Vitali Klitschko is a "great" fighter, or "the best of this era" or the "best of the milennium"

                  He's lost to the two best fighters he's ever fought, has Larry Donald and Kirk Johnson as the hilights on his resume, and at current, of the four titles holders, he won his belt against a fringe contender and has defended in once agaisnt another fringe contender.

                  You, like the other nut huggers, just don't like to hear the truth.

                  It upsets you, and I understand that. That's what makes you Nut Huggers.
                  no Im telling u the truth, because ur are way to full of **** and in some things u say u dont think before u say them...

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                  • Bozo_no no
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Leo Pradun
                    are u ****** dude? Rahman is Klitschkos mandatory....
                    I understand that, but that does not help his case unless he really picks it up after fighting Rahman.

                    I have said in other threads that Rahman is a mandatory, but he's just another meidocre opponent.

                    Once Rahman is out of the way, unless Klitschko starts to unify titles, he will be running out of time to obtain a chance at garnering Hall of Fame attention.

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                    • Bozo_no no
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Leo Pradun
                      no Im telling u the truth, because ur are way to full of **** and in some things u say u dont think before u say them...

                      This coming from the Bevis and Buthead personality of the Nut Huggers.

                      Please.

                      All you do is come into Klitschko threads and tell people to shut up and call them ******.

                      You present no valid arguments, and just act bitter and spitfull. Look at how angry you look in your photo. That couldn't be anymore fitting.

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