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  • Konstantin
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    #81
    Originally posted by crold1
    Against common foes, Trinidad was almost always better. He beat younger, better versions of Carr and Campas earlier; beat Camacho years earlier and as decisively; beat a still tough Whitaker, only a year and a half older than he was for Oscar, decisively (Oscar did not); stopped Mayorga and Vargas first (and won more rounds v. Vargas); was tougher physically for Hopkins...I also thought Tito won the De La Hoya fight by a point, even as Oscar fought better for stretches against a weight dying Trinidad.

    Add it all up and to me Tito has the edge. The two were both at their absolute prime at 147. Tito was the better Welterweight and overall superior fighter.
    Yeah, Tito was so much better against Hopkins right?

    ODLH has never been shut out, even when he was on the downside. Sure Tito might have a few more convincing wins, but he has those losses that ATG don't generally have. Being completely whitewashed by Winky's jab lol...

    Also, I think ODLH win against Vargas is equally impressive because 1) he is smaller than both of them 2) he didn't have to low blow his way to a win.
    Last edited by Konstantin; 10-07-2011, 03:01 PM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Konstantin
      Yeah, Tito was so much better against Hopkins right?

      ODLH has never been shut out, even when he was on the downside
      . Sure Tito might have a few more convincing wins, but he has those losses that ATG don't generally have. Being completely whitewashed by Winky's jab lol...
      Never? Pacquiao?

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      • Konstantin
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        #83
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Never? Pacquiao?
        Haha fine pacman is right. Not as often then.

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        • crold1
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          #84
          Originally posted by Konstantin
          Yeah, Tito was so much better against Hopkins right?

          ODLH has never been shut out, even when he was on the downside. Sure Tito might have a few more convincing wins, but he has those losses that ATG don't generally have. Being completely whitewashed by Winky's jab lol...

          Also, I think ODLH win against Vargas is equally impressive because 1) he is smaller than both of them 2) he didn't have to low blow his way to a win.
          I think it was a case where both Tito, and Hopkins, were better that night. Hopkins was almost flawless and Tito threw the kitchen sink. Rounds six and ten were epic. Oscar won a one or two early rounds, but Hopkins fought a much different fight there, almost sleepy, and won whenever he wanted. he didn't have to be perfect and didn't bother trying and Oscar didn't leave everything in the ring like Tito.

          So, yeah, Tito was a much tougher and more physical fight for Hopkins.

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          • bose
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            #85
            Crold1, i don't know why Delahoya doesn't get your respect against Hopkins but he was doing very well untill Hopkins landed the left hook. And Hopkins fought a very defensive and cautious fight against Trinidad untill the later rounds when Trinidad slowed down. And lets remember Hopkins "NEVER" accepted a rematch with Trinidad, which is what he wanted untill he finally felt Hopkins wouldn't accept the rematch so he retired (only to come back later).

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            • jri9d0
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              #86
              [QUOTE=Konstantin;11264537]Yeah, Tito was so much better against Hopkins right?

              ODLH has never been shut out, even when he was on the downside. Sure Tito might have a few more convincing wins, but he has those losses that ATG don't generally have. Being completely whitewashed by Winky's jab lol...

              Also, I think ODLH win against Vargas is equally impressive because 1) he is smaller than both of them 2) he didn't have to low blow his way to a win.[/QUOTE]

              Yet, ODLH conveniently waited for Trinidad to put a dent in Vargas before ODLH event opted to fight Fernando.

              If you remember correctly, it was Vargas calling out DLH from the jump and Oscar wanted no part of it until Vargas lost in dramatic fashion against Tito.

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              • crold1
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                #87
                Originally posted by bose
                Crold1, i don't know why Delahoya doesn't get your respect against Hopkins but he was doing very well untill Hopkins landed the left hook. And Hopkins fought a very defensive and cautious fight against Trinidad untill the later rounds when Trinidad slowed down. And lets remember Hopkins "NEVER" accepted a rematch with Trinidad, which is what he wanted untill he finally felt Hopkins wouldn't accept the rematch so he retired (only to come back later).
                Hopkins was careful; not cautious. He was landing most of the shots and by the sixth it was on. That was a performance for the ages. Hopkins fought DLH like he could beat him whenever he wanted (because he could). Oscar was tactically sound early but never seriously in the fight and Hopkins didn't fight with anywhere near the fire he did for Tito.

                Tito was a fight. Oscar a cash out.

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                • Einstien
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Never? Pacquiao?
                  Felix Sturm?

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                    #89
                    Amazing how some of these Mexicans are still angry at Tito!
                    That alone shows you what Trinidad did left some butts hurting for over a decade...lmao

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Einstien
                      Amazing how some of these Mexicans are still angry at Tito!
                      That alone shows you what Trinidad did left some butts hurting for over a decade...lmao
                      They know that Tito was the antimexican style beater. No one could sacrifice getting hit to get to Tito.

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