Un Deniable proof that Nevada allowed Floyd to win illegally

[x3_bazooka_x3]

I see nothing in the rules saying you can't both violate rule 7 and 14!

I agree it was a headbutt(7) but it was also a unsportsmanlike Action that cause injury to the opponent(14) so if you can't disprove or deal with this then i invite you to take a long look in that mirror people have been suggesting ask yourself

1. Do you care about the rules or is it just making somebody(Floyd) look bad in victory? something probably scarce in you're life
2.Do you really believe anything you are saying?

You have provided nothing but nonsense since i proved you wrong! No facts, no nothing so i implore you to get a grip and get over what was just another notch on Floyds belt!

It's nice to finally join the forum! I've been reading a long time! and i look forward to battling the ever grown ignorance around boxing!

And by the way you got wrecked by a 17 year old

I got wrecked? You talking about my son? who was robbed because Shane Jr had his daddy there mad dogging the judges? is that what you talking about?
I mean nobody was there to see us, they were all shane, right? and some how they felt Shane didnt deserve the win, as the announcer told them there is no boo-ing in amatuer boxing.
We know who won that fight, and ima be real with it, we will stalk his ass down for a rematch no matter where he goes when we see him thats the fight we want, but I doubt he wants any part of us my sig shows you a clip of us getting wrecked

[Pin Galarga]

Total BS thread.

[keelaybrown]

Upon further review, Victor's blatant headbutt would be cause for disqualification. Not a mere 1 point penalty.

perfectly put no one has ever brought that up what if floyd nose broke,eye
bleeds...

analyze the head but..
ortiz threw his combo some land some miss floyd smiles,ORTIZ UNCLENCHES BOTH FIST GRABS MAYWEATHER ON BOTH SIDES WITH BOTH OPEN GLOVES BENDS HIS KNEES JUMPS UP AND FOWARD INTO FLOYDS FACE THEN THROWS TWO MORE PUNCHES WHEN CORTEZ JUMPS IN THAT MISS AND FINISHS IT WITH A HUG AND A KISS. ANYBODY TELL U WOULD WANNA HUG A PERSON TWICE AND TOUCH GLOVES AFTER LMAO. FLOYD GOT SWEET LEGAL REVENGE.OK U WANNA PLAY THAT GAME I GOT U ,IS WHAT IT WAS.

DID I WANNA SEE MORE ROUNDS YES BUT IT WAS ORTIZS FAULT ****IN UP THIS HUGE EVENT.

SORRY BOUGHT THE GRAMMAR BTW some people on here are harvard grads

[travestyny]

This is the problem, Cortez decided not to take a point, he decided not to enforce the rules, when anybody who has a set of eyes can clearly see that the final mayweather move is clearly a violation of the rules.

it is.. I mean looking at the rules and looking at how this ended your going to tell me that, after knowin this that what happend is not a foul?

Plenty of people, some boxing experts, have said that there was no violation of the rules on Mayweather's part. The referee has even said that there was no violation of the rules. If the referee was pro Mayweather, wouldn't he have disqualified Ortiz right after the intentional head butt?

You asked for a debate. You said that Mayweather violated rule # 14, and we have proven that the same can be said of Ortiz. Your rebuttal is that the referee mad a judgment call that he would only take a point away from Ortiz, and now we are saying that the referee made a judgment call that Floyd did not commit a foul. I think the debate is over now.

[TintaBoricua]

Care to debate this now.....

Floyd could have hit him before the embrace, he chose not to, he baited this kid in, to ensure he was totally unsuspecting and defensless and nailed him, exactly what we see in your gifs, its clearly a foul according to Nevada...
Good Morning everybody

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nac/NAC-467.html

NAC 467.675 Acts constituting fouls in boxing. (NRS 467.030) The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:

1. Hitting below the belt.

2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.

3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.

4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.

5. Wrestling or kicking.

6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he does not fall.

7. Butting with the head or shoulder or using the knee.

8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt of the hand, the wrist or the elbow, and all backhand blows.

9. Purposely going down without being hit.

10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.

11. Deliberately using the rabbit punch.

12. Jabbing the opponent’s eyes with the thumb of the glove.

13. Using abusive language in the ring.

14. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike trick or action which causes injury to an opponent.


15. Hitting on the break.

16. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.

17. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.

18. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.

Well, to be fair, both Floyd and Manny have gone to be overlooked when it comes to fighting within normal standards of boxing.

If we were to nitpick, we could say, "Why was Cotto forced to move down to 145? Why was Margarito forced to move down to 150 for a 154 title? Why is Márquez fighting at 144? etc. etc."

And don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Pacquiao because fact is, his winning streak of highly known fighters is very, very impressive. I'm just pointing out little things that one COULD nag Pacquiao with.

In regards to Floyd, you could say he could've been disqualified in the Ortiz fight, and he could've been disqualified in the Judah fight as well (Roger coming into the ring), although wasn't it Horus (or Cash Cow) that said a disqualification is a fighter up on the apron during TIME-IN? Danny García was up on the apron WHILE the round was in effect, so in that regard, we could say Ortiz should've been disqualified, but what do I know?

In addition to all this, the ONLY reason people are arguing this is BECAUSE ORTIZ WAS KNOCKED OUT. He did the same thing to Gatti and LANDED THE SAME EXACT COMBINATION on Mosley...only difference was that Mosley could actually take a punch and still made it to the final bell. Ortiz had his hands down, was in a relaxed state, looking away, and his chin failed him, good night.

At the end of the day, and I hate to say this but it might be true, Pacquiao and Mayweather will be given the right of way every time there's an issue in their fights. There's a lot of money involved for a superfight between them should it happen, and they'll be damned if they let it collapse. Not saying it's right, but focus on my initial paragraphs and debate away.

[adamdoyle]

what the **** you talking about? I don't know **** about you or you're son. I just describing me proving you wrong as Wreaking you! Man This is boxing! I won't get personal unless you show personal dislike for a fighter with no good reason and I would never get that personal over something as trivial as the result of this fight. That what IDIOTS do!

[Hitman932]

I hate Mayweather and if he had done anything illegal I would be all over him.

Fact of the matter is that Ortiz is a mental midget and made the split second decision to quit on himself and the fans.

What he did is akin to a baseball player standing there with the bat on his shoulder refusing the swing and then getting mad when the umpire calls him out on strikes before he got a chance to hit.

[BoxingGenius27]

perfectly put no one has ever brought that up what if floyd nose broke,eye
bleeds...

analyze the head but..
ortiz threw his combo some land some miss floyd smiles,ORTIZ UNCLENCHES BOTH FIST GRABS MAYWEATHER ON BOTH SIDES WITH BOTH OPEN GLOVES BENDS HIS KNEES JUMPS UP AND FOWARD INTO FLOYDS FACE THEN THROWS TWO MORE PUNCHES WHEN CORTEZ JUMPS IN THAT MISS AND FINISHS IT WITH A HUG AND A KISS. ANYBODY TELL U WOULD WANNA HUG A PERSON TWICE AND TOUCH GLOVES AFTER LMAO. FLOYD GOT SWEET LEGAL REVENGE.OK U WANNA PLAY THAT GAME I GOT U ,IS WHAT IT WAS.

DID I WANNA SEE MORE ROUNDS YES BUT IT WAS ORTIZS FAULT ****IN UP THIS HUGE EVENT.

SORRY BOUGHT THE GRAMMAR BTW some people on here are harvard grads

This thread says it all

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=510659

[James78]

Care to debate this now.....

Floyd could have hit him before the embrace, he chose not to, he baited this kid in, to ensure he was totally unsuspecting and defensless and nailed him, exactly what we see in your gifs, its clearly a foul according to Nevada...
Good Morning everybody

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nac/NAC-467.html

NAC 467.675 Acts constituting fouls in boxing. (NRS 467.030) The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:

1. Hitting below the belt.

2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.

3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.

4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.

5. Wrestling or kicking.

6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he does not fall.

7. Butting with the head or shoulder or using the knee.

8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt of the hand, the wrist or the elbow, and all backhand blows.

9. Purposely going down without being hit.

10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.

11. Deliberately using the rabbit punch.

12. Jabbing the opponent’s eyes with the thumb of the glove.

13. Using abusive language in the ring.

14. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike trick or action which causes injury to an opponent.


15. Hitting on the break.

16. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.

17. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.

18. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.

Seriously guy you need to get a grip. Ortiz was a disgrace, floyd did nothing wrong. Your boy was getting a beating, he resorted to fouls he got ktfo. End of story.

[Dudley]

what the **** you talking about? I don't know **** about you or you're son. I just describing me proving you wrong as Wreaking you! Man This is boxing! I won't get personal unless you show personal dislike for a fighter with no good reason and I would never get that personal over something as trivial as the result of this fight. That what IDIOTS do!

bro honestly don't bother. This guys is fuuuuuuuuuuuu...kkkkkiinnnnggggg ******ed spatting out rules and regulations when he won't even admit that ORTIZ drew the first violent foul which started this whole "debate"

Fact is no Ortiz headbutt NONE and I MEAN NONE of this would have happened but he did and here we are. if you can't agree with that your reality impaired and just argue out of your ass.